Malles Motos - Dakar

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  1. Tau Anvil

    Tau Anvil African by trade

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    If I take 6 front and 10 rear will it be enough pressuming I can get 1or 2 from DNF riders (or they from me...)? Or will this be frown upon?
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    6 front and 10 rear likely to be enough without any more, can get 2 days out of the rear on some days, and 3-4 days from a front
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  3. Tau Anvil

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    Geode I live in South Africa and $100 is very steep for Swag in these parts. The little planning I have done I have aimed for around $50 swag. However it is still in early days with me I am still e-mailing some Dakar participants and rally raiders. Like I said I am very realistic about 2012 maybe being too far $ wise.

    Safariberg thx for the tyre info. Running Malles Moto one will probably also not trash tyres as the pro and other classes?
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  4. Tau Anvil

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    Thx for the advice and I just feel there is already well established riders on advrider doing this thing and I would not want to step on their toes.

    I will admit to taking advice from you and them from previous dakar's funding efforts for my own her in South Africa:clap
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  5. PPiA

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    Tau Anvil,

    What level of rider are you?
    If you don't think you will be a front runner and are doing it because it's a dream, then you can get away with less tyres than that.
    I went out on Day 5. I was still on my original tyres from the start but needed to swap the rear that evening.
    How?
    Michelin Deserts, and not spinning up the rear.
    You will need to take tyres/mousse with you and arrange for someone to carry them.
    Leads me to;
    What brand of bike do you think you will be on?
    KTM have had (I assume still have?) a service where you can buy an option to purchase parts from their vehicle when needed, and if you buy your tyres and mousse from them, they will also carry them for you.
    Obviously you won't get it from them unless you are riding a KTM, and they need to be Rally models.
    Spare wheels and trunk/s are carried by the organisers.
    This info is based on it being run the same way as in 2006.

    The best advice I can offer, is ride slower than you think you can to avoid injuring yourself and damaging your bike.
    Once you are injured, the lack of sleep from trying to do your own maintenance will compound your issues enormously.

    Nobody is going to notice the difference if you are running at position 183 or 129 or 97 etc.
    You will though, when you hurt yourself.

    It's a tough race. It's even tougher when you have to maintain your bike yourself.
    Be the turtle.

    You'll love it :1drink
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  6. Tau Anvil

    Tau Anvil African by trade

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    Thx PPIA

    I must say I apreciate all the advice and comments, I dare not make as if I know enough about the GREATEST RACE ON EARTH so please the more info the beter (Husky 610 I have Hijacked your thread If you don't mind I will keep going on as I think more dreamers are looking at Malles Moto...:freaky)

    About my speed. In my little world I am fast in the South African National champs I have finished top 10 a couple of times and won my provinsial offroad champs in 2009 and was awarded Western Province colours for motorsport.

    In the states I reckon I am a Class B GNCC runner( As I understand their is pro's class A and then B???? I might be totally wrong) I make this assesment as some of our top guys rode in your Class2 (second devision) and I would then say maybe class B.

    So as I take it in the states I am average racer I would suggest. I have lots of desert racing experince and riding. I have been racing Mx since the age of 11 and will be turning 28 in September. My wife is from Namibie and my parents originaly from Walvisbay(where Angelina and Brad had one of therir babies) I am under no imprassion or attempt to "race" Dakar or try and prove how fast I am. I do not think I have that kind of ability or that Malles Moto lends itself to hard racing.

    I have never stopped drinking, using sugar eating bread or dieted like I have since 18 December 2010 ( the date I decided stuff It I nead to try get to Dakar and looking like a muffin won't help convincing my family, friends and sponsors. I have since 2003 raced without sponsors as I do not take myself or racing too serious and the funny part is the best results have come in this manner.:lol3

    Everybody that rides propably has the "I want to do Dakar" moment in their lives especially before and after the event takes place. I have been in love since forever. For 3 years in bording school I had the Stephane Peterhansel Super tenere twin poster on my wall it was laminated and heavy and fell of often:rofl.

    For me not getting to Dkar is my failure moment. Maybe not 2012 but then 2013 otherwise loony bin. As much as I KNOW and need the Abu dhabi desert challenge and a week in the states with RMS I don't have that luxury as every cent I can save, make, steal,beg for I will have to send towards the Dakar effort.

    I am planning on using a WR 450. The JVO or Mecasystems kit will be NO.!, but yet again$ will depict waht I can use. Maybe a JVO light kit and a Safari tanks 10 l rear? The big thing is building a Bike in South Africa, getting one build in Europe or the states and having it imported to South Africa or renting or getting a bike build and then shipped to Dakar without ever seeing the bike. All this is still uncertain.

    Riding the bike and testing before the race will be the 1st prize however not in my opinion a nacesity. getting fit and strong and staying healthy before and during the event is more importent I suppose.
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  7. tehdutchie

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    Bike rental is always an option too! I know Richard de Groot who did it this year too, in Malles Moto. Rented a sorted WR450 from Rallybikecenter, spare engine and wheels.

    No need to invest money in the bike for a one off race after which the bike will be shelved, invest money into making it to the start and finish! If you have spare cash from not building your own bike, move from Malles Moto to a team that can do your service and carry spares.

    Good luck!
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  8. JMo (& piglet)

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    Corrected x

    Jx
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    I originally typed 'KNACKERED' :rofl
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  10. Tau Anvil

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    Thx thedutchie.

    Who did he rent from? I might end up getting a Wr at home and put my IMS longrange tank on and NAv tower and do some training here.


    JMO are you still waiting for your scooter?
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    Ewout from www.rallybikecenter.com owns a 'speciality' shop here in Holland. He built the bike according to Richard's wishes (older type A3 kit). Ewout used to wrench for Yamah Team Europe/Holland and has plenty of experience building these bikes, I think he has done 6 or 7 Dakars.

    Drop him an email!

    This year he built these 4 bikes;

    and has helped the Honda team that Quinn Cody ran with.
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  12. Tau Anvil

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    Ok thanks. I have seen that kit yes, they seem very robust. However that pic of the new JVO kit JMo posted on her thread :eek1.
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  13. Trang

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    Bring it On !! :clap


    .... still waiting on details of what to pack in the Box :deal
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  14. Tau Anvil

    Tau Anvil African by trade

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    :D lekker lets give these previous Dakar entrants hell with all the Q...:lol3

    Who does extra transport for you. I get the Euro 500 for the 2 boxes and 2 wheels from ASO in Malles Moto, However if I want to take extra tyres and a motor is there services like this? Am I still in Malles Moto then?

    I have been thinking about the spar4e motor in a box, and that doesn't leave me with very many spare parts and tool to pack.

    And warm clothes and energy supplements.
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  15. Tau Anvil

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    PING thatcamerakid

    Where are those pics?????:evil
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  16. JMo (& piglet)

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    You need to chat up one of the independent support teams - like Desert Rose Racing for example, who carried the spare engine and tyres/mousses for Si Pavey this year...

    If they have spare space on the truck, then I'm sure they will be happy to carry a few extra spares and tyres for you, for a price of course - but considerably less than a full support package of course!

    As long as you do your service work, and work within the confines of the Malles Moto enclosure, then there is no reason why you can't have a few extra spares carried by another team, should/as and when you need them...

    Jx
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  17. Tau Anvil

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    Thx Jmo

    That is exactly what I am planning on doing. If it is possible. Then keep the engine available at al bivoucs I would then keep 2 x sets clutch plates in each box and sprockets.
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  18. Tau Anvil

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    Ok got quotes on stickers T-shirts and Caps so getting my support packages costing down.

    I have found a friend who has been helping lots with info on bike prep and Nav equipment:clap. The more I think of those 2 boxes being my life line the and the smell of them when I open them after 9 days smelling of filter oil and fuel and dirty clothes. I bet your tent and slaaping bag must stink so badly :roflafter the first week.

    Now I wonder do you then need 2 tents and sleeping bags and matresses as you won't have the same box each night????
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    yes, IF you put it in the ASO boxes as you only see each box every second night. Better to put it on a support truck you see each night.
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  20. Tau Anvil

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    I have a roll that packs super small which I use on y HP2 when doing rides, it is super smaal so maybe I can slip it in the back of one of the VW Tauregs........think they will notice: " hallo sir I work for Greenpeace just need to do the daily check to C if you an't smuggling dunemonster, you know those critters that catch bikers ..):evil
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