Mapsource is Updated - Version 6.15.11

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Emmbeedee, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    Sorry - I should have put the "dripping with sarcasm" smiley in there.

    The security they are enhancing is their own.
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  2. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    That's an oxymoron if ever there was one...
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  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Yep, all of the 3rd Party map makers that I have been in contact with over the past two weeks are well aware of what Garmin's done. I've tested several "test fixes" from many of them over the past week. The issue isn't whether they can re-FID their applications, it's really, why should they have to disrupt their customers [us]?

    Garmin took a poorly conceived approach to a DRM problem and now their customers have to suffer for it. To some [me] it might appear as though Garmin's decided to start acting like Microsoft - act and let the rest of them react. Which leads me to the conclusion that I've spent my last dollar with Garmin.
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  4. Iced Tea

    Iced Tea Been here awhile

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    Yes but is there a better product out there to replace our Garmins?
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  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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  6. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    I hear you - but Mapsource isn't an operating system. It is a program that Garmin distributes to users of its products. So if others want to use that product rather than provide their own, it's up to them to make it work.
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  7. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Interesting viewpoint...

    Garmin established a 3rd Party Map Development Program quite a few years ago now in an attempt to attract map makers to develop products for the fledgling hardware company they were. Now with over 25 companies (and growing) creating Locked map products Garmin seems to be treating them rather harshly. Yes, Garmin technically "....does not support 3rd Party Map Products." And I suppose they tell all of their MPC "partners" that they will get a "best effort" approach to API support.

    Actually, I really don't care - that's business in the OEM world...

    What I do care about is how it impacts me when Garmin does something this stupid. I don't think Cliff Pemble told the head of Cartography to screw all of the MPC partners, but if I were in his position I'd have a new head of Cartography about now. My view is that businesses should never negatively impact their customers. And, if they do (things happen) they should own-up to it quickly. Anyone seen a response from Garmin with an apology? Just a view point - YMMV.
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  8. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    If they are not supporting 3rd party developers they promised to, that is a whole 'nother issue.

    If people are developing their own apps and tying them into Mapsource, that's not an OEM issue.
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  9. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    We're talking about the "'nother issue" condition. In this case the issue is that Garmin told Map makers to use Family ID's above 2400. Now the new schema won't read those Unlock codes. So, map makers are forced to change and we get to reinstall our 3rd Party Maps. Again, the act of installing a new version of a map is not the issue.
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  10. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Any software developing company with half a brain makes their current releases "backward compatible", so they don't fuck their customers over.
    Microsoft have a nasty habit of rejigging the internal document formats every bloody time they do a new release of Word, for instance, but they make real sure that it will read and process earlier versions, and save in earlier formats too. Despite them being rapacious bastards, they still have enough nous to realise that alienating their customer base is a recipe for bankruptcy.
    Given the serious competition from the proliferation of GPS-enabled phones these days, I am stunned that Garmin allow this to occur. It says to me that the people in charge have no idea what their company is actually doing to their customers.
    And I agree with whoever said Garmin needs to sack the person who thinks this crap up. Their DRM is a moving disaster for customers.
    They would do better to hand the source code over to the open source community, frankly it would result in a far superior product.
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  11. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    It appears that Garmin has re-thought their approach on the value of Map products and are now looking to hold on to Cartography a bit more tightly.

    At the other end of the spectrum is Nokia (NAVTEQ). Nokia has made all of the NAVTEQ maps free for their compatible handset customers. Now there is a value statement for you.
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  12. Steve W

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    Slightly off topic, but of interest and maybe a solution for a few of the problems the latest MapSource has created. MapSource Reverse Converter I just used it on a CNNTNA 2010.4 map and it worked as advertised. I'm now using the new maps in 6.13.7. :clap There's also a link to a 6.13.7 source.
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  13. BKMLWR

    BKMLWR Wondering around...

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    some riders in Me. are liking their delorme PN30/40s about the same size as a 60csx and they didn't have to buy 2 products to get topo lines along with the roads...
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  14. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    That looks pretty cool and is probably worthy of its own thread! I know lots of people have been hanging onto their 6.3.17 MapSource. This gives those with the NuMaps update a solution too. :thumb
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  15. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    Steve W. I went ahead and started a new thread and gave you credit for sharing the link here. - http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12108096
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  16. ptgarcia

    ptgarcia Huh?

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    I'm currently running Mapsource 6.15.6. Should I bother updating to 6.15.7? I don't want to inadvertently screw up my maps.
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  17. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    MapSource v6.15.7 should not cause you any problems.
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