Meet Earl... The Next Gen GPS?

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by btao, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    "Glossy" isn't the issue when it comes to sunlight readability. The issue is, does the surface of the display (map screen in our case) have enough "reflectivity" to be seen outdoors easily and with good contrast? This requires trade-offs in display design which most smartphone and tablet mfg's are not willing to do.
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  2. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    I guess there are plenty of GPS antenna's for laptops, but that gets plugged into the only USB port on it, so how would you charge it? Splitter option is probably a no-go to work with charging that would keep up.

    Everything has so many work-arounds that I just want the damn Earl to exist!! Now dammit! I hope they can do it though, really, because it would be really cool for a crowd-funded project like this to succeed. It's hugely ambitious to give you everything, for a bargain price.
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  4. ohgood

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    if you say so, I'm fine with it. so far, when I see a glossy screen I just write it off as far as outside usability.
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  5. btao

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  6. btao

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    shoot, I'd give the Archos ChefPad a shot if it wasn't in that stupid pink case, geeesh.....
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  7. ohgood

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    gps status (android market) with and without airplane mode (no connectivity to wireless, or bluetooth) activated...

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    so yes, there is actually a gps antennae. if it didn't, i'd take it back and get the kids version that already has a bumper, and the same quad core tegra 3 cpu... this one:http://www.kmart.com/fuhu-nabi-7inc...W005798115001P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7
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  8. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    When you "invest" in anything like this, you need to be in a position, and have the mindset, that you can just as well put a match to the money.

    And when people who have not done a major project like this take them on, they often think that the timeline that the "experts" provide just don't apply to them. And then they find that they do.
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  9. _cy_

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    problem is not the crowd funding investors who took the risk and "invested" in the project and over funded project by 2x.

    it's all the pre-orders taken by this startup that are creating what looks like looming problems. what happens, if ALL those pre-order folks start demand their $$$ back? And the $$$ has already been spent???

    could be wrong, but my guess is that's why the lack of communications for that short period .. they had a crush of refund demands and they got scared...

    same thing happened in a number of group buys that I was involved in on Candlepower forums. where a relatively large sum of $$$ was taken in advance for high tech flashlights. it was not unusual for those group buys to total $10k+ for one project with lead times ending up exceeding one year. with one swindler that did multiple projects ended up taking folks on CPF for $20k+

    LOTS of pissed off folks when final product was NOT delivered. when folks started contacting law enforcement they had a nasty surprise. folks that "invested" or prepaid for their custom flashlights found out they all had to file charges individually and in the jurisdiction the now swindler lived in.

    the total amount taken in may have exceeded $20k, but charges could only be filed for the amount personally lost by individual filing charges. social media like forums allows massive numbers of folks to connect making pooling of funds possible. but when things go wrong.. only individual charges can be brought.

    after one year, two years and longer .. paypal charges, credit card, USPS money orders, etc. etc. any recourse are long gone. and NO USPS did nothing about fraud committed across state lines using USPS money orders in actual group buys mentioned above.
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  10. wbrisett

    wbrisett hmmm....

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    I just got back from a trip. I always put two GPS units on my GSA, my Zumo for streets and my DeLorme PN-40 for off-road. The only issue I really have with the PN-40 is the screen is way too small for my eyes. I've started wearing my glasses instead of contacts since I don't need cheaters if I wear glasses (but it's still a PIA since I have to look over or under the lenses). A larger screen would definitely help. But that said, I'm still not quite sure about this device. But then it's not for off-road adventures, it really is for hiking, which I can see this device as usable for... however, not quite sure about bikes.
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    what you're describing is exactly why a tablet outpaces a standalone gps unit, or really, needing multiple gps units.

    totally offline OFFROAD routing, mapping and navigation:
    oruxmaps

    totally offline ONROAD routing, mapping, and navigation:
    osmand+


    same device, same microsd card, same screen, just different apps. or, pick from the 20 or so others, with 30 or so map styles and layers of info on top of that....

    too bad it looks like earl died, or was a scam, or whatever. :(

    go buy a cheap droid tablet and enjoy it.
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  12. 9Dave

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    Agreed.

    The meetearl website says
    <H14>
    If they are using the money for development, how in the world will they be able to refund any or all of it? :dunno

    While this looks like an interesting concept, I'd be holding on to my $$ at least until it gets FCC approval.
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  13. btao

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  14. StuInFH

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    Link working for anyone? Looks down again to me.

    Last tweet was a week ago; "your request will be honored" in response to someone asking for a refund four times with no prior response. I don't tweet or follow any, but I'm guessing a week is a good while in twitterspeak?
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  15. KLM 3

    KLM 3 Been here awhile

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    Yes, its working for me right now.
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    Yep, working fine.
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    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Thanks guys. Must be firewall issue for me or I have been banned. :-)

    Will appreciate it if you keep the thread updated when something new happens or release date is firmed up. thanks
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  18. gpsdualsport

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    There is a fresh update on the Meet Earl website. Touch screen type has been changed to a glove friendly model from Cypress Semiconductor. According to the smart guys the IR touch screen would be tough to make truly water proof.
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    This. :deal

    Looks like a really neat device. I'll be watching this one.
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  20. btao

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    October 1st, 2013 oktobEARLfest There has been no shortage of excitement since our last update. Between the national holiday of the mid-autumn festival and Typhoon Usagi, local business hours have been unpredictable, to say the least. Fortunately, we have been making solid progress on Earl's development despite these intermittent closures. The hardware engineering team has made some impressive advancements with their iMX6 development and we have some early demo units we've been testing. It looks like we should have an early SDK by mid-October, enabling us to begin app development with a tuned E-ink display API. Team Earl is extremely happy with the progress thus far and will be meeting with the mechanical design engineers next week to finalize Earl's case design. With a myriad of sensors and ports (USB, TRRS, and antenna), the proper and most efficient placement of these components is an engineering feat in and of itself. We are entering the core stage of development and very excited about how Earl is coming together. We can't wait to show off Earl's capabilities and should have demo units ready sometime in November. We'll be sending them out to field testers to put them through the paces while the team fine tunes Earl's final design here in China. The beginning of October marks China's National Day, teeing off a week long celebration that commemorates Chinese heritage. Even though businesses will be closed again, I'll be busy prepping MD files for the team and hopefully, working on my Mandarin! Until next time! &#35613;&#35613; / &#35874;&#35874; (Thank You!!!) Pronounced, xie xie.
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