Mega Cool New Product-Antigravity Batteries

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Antigravity, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. LRH

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    Can be charged with 12VDC power source.

    Must be done via the mini-plug, not the large connector that uses red and black cables; that's what the provided "mobile" accessory (or cigarette lighter) plug is for.

    Otherwise I think you would need a customized SAE connector wire with mini-plug sized for the Micro Start, and inline fuse.
  2. phreakingeek

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    I'm no expert on this thing yet, but I think i read that you can't charge via the main jump-start power port on the battery unit. It has a dedicated charging port.

    The unit I received came with two charging adapters, a 120v and a 12v.

    If you have a converter to switch the SAE plug to a 12v cigarette lighter style plug, then you can probably use it to recharge the battery as long as you have it fused and it doesnt overdraw.

    Course, according to the previous poster, the SAE adapter pigtail that you can buy from Antigravity has a diode that prevents you from drawing power even with the SAE adapter. So, you'd need to use the standard Battery Tender type pigtail for charging.

  3. LRH

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    Just so we all don't get confused here, charging of the Micro Start PPS itself cannot be done regardless of the type of connection via the "jump start" connector.
    Only the mini-plug connector can be used for charging it.

    And their reason for having the special clamp or ring-terminal cables is because they say the power output could melt trickle charger (Battery Tender) cables.
    The AG MS cables are stamped with 10 AWG meaning it can only handle about 30+ Amps, but don't quote me on that.
    They aren't very thick, really, and very flexible-- which can be a good thing. I'm not sure what gage wire the BT uses, maybe 16 AWG. I'm just not convinced of the AG cable effectiveness or intended purpose until I hear from people saying they can trickle charge using voltage-sensing chargers.

    Anyway, yes, their "mobile" DC charger is going to be the way to charge from the bike. Just need a way to plug that in.
    For a while I had a Battery Tender cigarette lighter adapter plug to power or charge things but I had problems with the things staying connected (duct tape helped).
  4. OZZZ

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    Mr Anti-Gravity, Anyone.. Charging these from 12V solar, any experience, any suggestions? Do they have a capacitor inbuilt, will they struggle from a small panel with intermittent light, would the panel need a regulator of some sort?

    Thanks.
  5. mtncrawler

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    Question/comment here from an electrical dolt..:D

    I actually called AG today and spoke with someone about the XP-3. My main concerns were;

    1) Charging tip for IPhone5.
    2) Re-charging the XP-3 off my EarthX battery/bike 12V system.
    3) Inquiry on the SAE harness hooked right to the battery to make it easy to jump without using clamps/removing seat...etc.

    I'd still like to hear comments from those with the units - or the OP if you happen on the thread. I want to order ASAP, so would like further clarification.

    I got a good answer on 1. New units being shipped with IP5 tip - they said some units (older) being shipped are sent without and that if I didn't receive it with my unit, they would send one along.

    Still confused on #2. It looks like the XP-3 ships with two charging chords - one home unit (assuming 110V std electrical plug) and a cigarette lighter version. On my moto - I only have and accessory plug (socket) which is a Powerlet. Has someone made or found a source for such a cable - Powerlet to charging port on PPS? I realize you don't "charge" the PPS using the SAE plug to battery "jump" circuit, but I would like to keep the PPS charging in my tank bag when necessary.

    #3 seems pretty straight forward. My only question for those that have it - is it long enough to have it accessible? Does it have a weather proof cover?

    Also, one thing I forgot to ask - earlier in hte thread the OP eluded to a carrying case for the XP-3 (smaller than XP-1) - has that been developed?

    Thanks all....
  6. LRH

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    #1 yep, I got that Lightning adapter with mine. Just don't have a iPhone to use it with.

    #2 you could get a cigarette plug-in for the Powerlet:
    http://www.powerlet.com/shop-by-product/power-cables/PWRCBL

    #3 it is a rather short cable, I was just able to fit it with enough reach to get at. My battery sits in a box going from one side to the other of the bike, under the seat and between engine and rear wheel.
    Length is said to be 30cm, or just less than 12 inches, and the negative cable is shorter than the positive by a couple inches or so. There's also the safety device spliced into the positive cable which makes for an unbendable inch or more.
    Considering that, if your battery has a terminal a long way from the outside it could be problematic. Mine tucks in behind a removable plastic side panel piece of the bike, so that's got to be removed to plug in the M-S XP-3.

    No protective cover for the SAE plug, although the blue M-S plug might be thought of as having a cover on it while that SAE adapter is connected. Since there is little risk of electrical short-circuit due to the SAE having one contact side contained within it. Just not really a "weather proof" cover, per se.
    I actually used the one from my Battery Tender SAE plug, had to cut it off that to use on the "harness" (and put back again after finding out the charger won't recognize the connection).

    Lastly, yes, I got the new case with my XP-3. Too wide to fit flat into the bottom of the saddle bag without some bending of the case, but does okay.

    Glad to say I already helped a woman jump her SUV after a soccer game when another guy was trying to help but had no luck with his car. Had me thinking it might not work either and yet was a nearly instant start.
  7. OZZZ

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    Mine just arrived. Its a 3 but (unexpectedly) came in a case with a (US) wall plug, 12 V plug and jump camples. There is one outlet plug with 4 heads. Looks like a iphone 4 size plug, the others are described as 'communication adaptors' hope this helps?

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  8. mtncrawler

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    Cool - thanks for the responses!

    I totally forgot about a cigarette to Powerlet adapter. From what I remember though the cigarette lighter plug can loosen - too bad there isn't a SAE or Powerlet direct to the charging port.

    I'm going to order up today...
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    As an Australian can we charge it via the walk plug - we have 240 volts here.
  10. OZZZ

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    Yes, voltage isn't an issue, you'll need a AU /USplug adaptor though.
  11. beemerphile

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    The "Blue M-S plug" is a fairly common EC5 connector.
  12. Mr. Fisherman

    Mr. Fisherman PROUD 2B Riff Raff!

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    I wish I would have had one of these on each of my last two long adventures.

    It made the short list. I just need to earn more money :lol3 :1drink

    Has everyone been happy with theirs?
  13. beemerphile

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    Mine saved my bacon out solo riding and camping in Quebec last week. The unit has huge battery clips which I exchanged for smaller ones. I would have had to remove the battery to jump it with the included clips. I will probably prewire with an EC5 connector on all of my "travel" bikes.
  14. HD Steve

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    Is there a story about antigravity. See the product for sale but can't get to their website.
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    Mac and snap on are carring them also
  17. Mr. Fisherman

    Mr. Fisherman PROUD 2B Riff Raff!

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    I thought they would have had their wired tender plug available by now. It is part of what I was waiting for,
  18. beemerphile

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    That is easy enough to create if you are careful with wire gauge and make sure that the blocking diodes are correctly in the circuit. Since I already have tender plugs (either SAE or Powerlet) on all my bikes, I was just going to install EC5 plugs on them. I don't need an EC5 to SAE adapter.
  19. Chadx

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    There page is back up this morning. :clap

    Still have to order mine before snow season (snowmobile and snowbike). I've wanted one for summer as well, but things aren't quite as serious at 60 degrees as they are at 5 degrees. Ha.
  20. Dirty GSer

    Dirty GSer Been here awhile

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    So whatever happened to the smaller version mentioned in post 100 as coming out in Jan/Feb?

    Said it was the size of a galaxy phone

    Just curious....