Metzler Tourance Next

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  1. BlueSkyGuy

    BlueSkyGuy Been here awhile

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    Currently on Metzler Tourance and really have been impressed about 23,000 miles on the set and I was completely convinced I wil use the same again. I haven't heard a great deal about the EXP version and the Next is new to me. The next looks far more street bias than the standard Tourance. I am pretty well a 95/5 rider has anyone tried the Next yet?
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  2. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    I have the Tourance EXP, which is similar in on road profile to the Next. Not sure why they have two tires so similar,but I cannot tell I'm on a tire built for a adventure bike.
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  3. nameisdam

    nameisdam Ride'm while you can

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    Talked to the rep at the Dealers show - Metzler has realized that the EXP was less than expected for mileage & wear issues - most GS riders switched back to the Tourance, or went with another brand.
    Thus, the redesign and the new "Next" version - to be available any time now.
    Suppose to be longer wearing, better wet weather, and not do the strange wear patterns (like my set did).
    Been real happy with the standard Tourances for 100K or so, but interested in the new version - either way, will not go back to the EXP (being discontinued anyway).
    Ride well.
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  4. SpeedyR

    SpeedyR SE in the SE

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    sounds like a pretty wide range of sizes available (still asking for an 18" rear!), but as other said, better wet weather grip, durability, and dual compound. Sounds like they'll be in stock at the distributor by the end of the month..
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  5. TuonoBiker

    TuonoBiker Been here awhile

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    The "NEXT" is also a dual compound rear tire. Read up on the tire on Revzilla. Great info on the tire stats. The front has a high content of silica as well.

    Sounds like a great tire. So far, I'm liking the Tourance EXP that came on my GS/A. This is my first adv bike and tire and I like them for grip so far. I'm a ex-sportbiker who thinks his GS is a sport bike. No complaints on grip yet.
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  6. mb90535im

    mb90535im '05 R1200 GS

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    Would love to know the secret of how you guys are getting such high mileage out of a set of Tourances.

    I get 6-7K out of the rear and maybe 10-12K front out of the original formula Tourances.
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  7. TriTi

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    I used to ride Tourance's... after a lot of asking around and research I decided to switch to Pirelli Scorpion Trail's. I ride off road sometimes, but the majority is on road. I wanted a tire that I could really get going on the twisty's and still be ok-ish on trails. I know if you have Tourances and like them you will probably stick with them, but coming from Tourances to the Pirelli Scorpion Trails (PST), I will never go back. I think the PST's are better on and off road but especially on the road.
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  8. wildy

    wildy The Highwayman

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    I currently have Next on my new WC GS. They are awesome. They turn in fast and give outstanding grip. I have had. 1150 which had the original tourances on it - great tyre but IMHO not as good as the next. I have also had. GSA with exp - a good tyre outlet down by mileage. If the next give good mileage then it wil be the definitive tyre.
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  9. TuonoBiker

    TuonoBiker Been here awhile

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    Judging by how mine are wearing with about 3400 miles on them (the EXP) model, I will probably be in the same boat.
    Oh wait...you're talking about the original ones....no idea there....at this point I will still post my response to increase post count so I can look like I know what im talking about in another thread :freaky
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  10. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

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    Any news on availability date for the new & improved Tourance?

    By chance does anyone know the tread depth of a new Tourance (non-EXP)? I'm trying to estimate the remaining life of my Rear Tire 140/80 x 17
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  11. murpies

    murpies Been here awhile

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    Mine Tourance EXP has now clock 10,000 miles and is still a few thousands to go. If like Wat the Motorrad test fr the German Magazine had said that the New Tourance NEXT is much more longevity the the EXP. I will definitely try the next "NEXT"!!

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  12. ghostrider1964

    ghostrider1964 Edumacated Red Neck

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    Yep, you boys don't ride like me...I killed the EXP in 3,000 miles...FRONT AND REAR! I would not have done that with the old Tourance which I am running again...I wore the sides off the EXPs until I was riding triangles...:eek1 Yes, I corner hard and ride shitty hot chip roads in 100 plus degrees at 100 plus mph:deal
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  13. JPBM

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    A couple of weeks ago it was time to change rubber on the VStrom, so the motorrad test came quite handy. Not a lot of info on it on the web except which tyre won, but managed to get a printscreen of the final scoresheet, and translated it to english:

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    Two years ago I chose the Dunlop for a front tyre (already had an EXP in the back) based on the same test and some good feedback by fellow riders. Would probably have chosen the same tyre (thought it was brilliant for my use) but was a little concerned it would wear too quickly in the rear.

    When I heard about this year's test and saw the final result, my choice was made: Tourance Next was the choice.

    So far (500km) so good, can't really test wet weather performance in Portugal at the moment, but these things just love the twisties, really quick changing direction, and give great confidence leaned over. Also braking performance in the rear seems higher than with the Tourance EXP (my greatest gripe with that tyre, even when new the rear broke loose on tarmac too easily).

    BTW, my front Dunlop lasted 27000km (16777miles) and my rear Tourance EXP 30000km (18641miles), even with some heavy (2 up and fully loaded) touring of Spain and Portugal.
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  14. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    Does anyone know where in the US has Tourance Next in stock?

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    I hope they have favorable results. I have put 50,000 tourance miles on my GS. i'm one of the lucky ones that gets 8-10k miles out of a rear and twice that for a front. I've never had a problem with them, always great traction in the dry or wet (well, not mud...). If the Next's go well, they might be the ones that convince me to mix it up.
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  17. hdxbones

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    I put a set on my Uly a couple of weeks ago. I only have a few hundred miles on them far, but very happy. They turn in easily, stay planted, and grip well on pavement. I haven't ridden any single track to speak of, but they're solid on gravel and forest fire roads as well. I haven't ridden them in rain yet either; I'll post when I do.
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  18. damytzeus

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    ghostrider1964:

    i'm in the same boat as you. i have tourance next on my month old 2013 r1200gs water boxer. already put over 2500 miles on it and it already shows wear signs. i'd be glad to get 5-6k out of the rear tire. on my 2007 k1200s, i've never gotten more than 4k miles on a set of rear tires. so, 5-6k would be amazing for me. for how i ride, tire longevity ranks lower priority that performance.

    i ran the gs up 126 mph (gps speed) a couple of days ago. speedometer read 130 mph. like my k-bike, i run the snort out of the gs. regularly ride her 100+ mph and typically wear rear tires pretty evenly. i usually wear the sides on front tires well before the center wears out. btw, not sure from where some of the claims about the waterboxer being unstable at high speed arise. i've had her pegged at over 120 mph and she's super stable even with significant cross winds. this bike absolutely flipping rocks in all conditions. bmw knocked it out of the park again -like the s1000rr and the k16s. well deserved as the cycle world's bike of the year.

    before buying the waterboxer, i put about 500 miles on the dealer's waterboxer which came shod with continental trail attacks. on the street, i definitely prefer the conti's to the metzelers. the contis grip and hold on max acceleration out of corners. i regularly get the metzelers to break traction and skip -controlled and not unnerving. on the track, with identical bikes and skills, the trail attacks would walk away from the tourance out of each corner.

    i ride probably 25%+ off-road. the next is a very capable off-road tire. i've ridden it on some gnarly roads and trails that i doubted i could climb and it climbed without event. i feel quite confident riding the next in anything except deep sand and deep mud. some sand and mud are okay. really, it's a excellent all around great tire -especially for most riders who don't push the limit. i thought about getting knobbies and see no point for now.

    i intend to take out the dealer's demo waterboxer again and thoroughly test the conti trail attacks off-road. if it matches the performance of the next, i'll buy the conti's when tourances wear out. for how i ride, i find the street performance of the conti trail attacks more than marginally superior to the tourance next. for most riders, i suspect the tourance will more than deliver. even for me, it's more than good enough.

    $0.02

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  19. beanbandit

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    Hi, fitted a set of next to my 08 gas, previously used tourance and exp. last trip left port Douglas with about half worn exp, about 200 ams later on to the red sand road, bike was all over the place, stopped to see if I had a punter on the rear, no, but the centre tread had gone, and no place for a couple of thousand k's for a new tyre, by the time I could get another tyre ,the metal was showing, fitted a tourance exp, last thursday week fitted a new set of NEXT, rode 70 k's home, and the sunday morning left for central Australia, again a couple of hundred k's of bitumen, then dirt, hard dirt no problem ,then on to the red sand, no feeling in the front end, terrible feeling, to far in to go another way, anyhow, i was standing up, doing about 90/100 concentrating,lucky, hit a patch of deep sand, lost all feeling at the front, hit the throttle to power out, but could not steer, down of the edge of the track, into the shit all could do was ride it like a mx bike, all the time I was going faster, the front was absolutely useless.thinking to myself,this is going to hurt, then hit a harder section, stopped, checked the front tyre, all ok, 5000 plus k's on bitumen in the last five days, all weather, heat ,rain wind, long straight roads, twists, and the tyre still look like new, my opinion at this time, still with 5000 to go, good long distance tyres.good wet tyres, dirt,forget it,
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  20. ghostrider1964

    ghostrider1964 Edumacated Red Neck

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    I have yet to run the Trail attack...I went ahead and bought the Next for my GSA. I still have a HP2E with TKCs so I am equiping the GSA for bad weather. I might try the Trail attack next time. How do you like the waterboxer? I have test rode one but only for about 20 miles and it was in traffic...Both of my bikes are paid for and BoulderEd(ADV) has moved down here and works at Lone Star BMW...He wants me to trade my GSA and HP2 on waterboxer GSA...Just not sure if I can do that...sides...both of mine are paid for:lol3
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