mexican 1000

Discussion in 'Racing' started by decafe, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    sanity?
    holy hell a lot time penalties. how do these checkpoints work?
  2. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    Each Special Stage will be scored individually. Liaisons (transits) will not be scored but have target times and maximum allowable time windows to complete. Penalties will be imposed for early arrival (i.e.: speeding). Failure to meet the maximum transit time will also result in road penalties (i.e.: over time-limit assessments). Ample time is allowed to complete each Liaison section. There is no benefit to speeding and laying up.

    Time windows are computed as follows:

    - For example from the 2011 Mexican 1000: Liaison 1 (Laguna Salada – Diablo Dry Lake) is 59.7 miles, the posted speed limit is 80KM/Hr and there was a military checkpoint along the route. Now, calculate Transit Time Window as follows: 59.7miles*1.6KM/Mile = 95.52KM, driven at 80KM/Hr max speed, the minimum allowable transit will take: 95.52Km / 80Km/Hr = 1.19 Hrs. 1.19Hrs*60min/Hr = 71.64 Min. We add an additional 30 minutes to this liaison to allow for traffic conditions, and other variables. Therefore, the acceptable arrival window will be a minimum of 71.64 minutes and a maximum of 101.64 minutes in this example.

    **All Liaison Transit times will be provided on the Vehicle Time Slip**
  3. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    They are getting penalties mostly on the transfer sections. There is a time window that you are supposed to arrive at the end of the transfer section (and end of each Special), based on the time you started that section. Those who arrived too soon were speeding on the highway. Those who arrived too late took some sort of LONG stop. The time window on the transfers is based on the highway speed limit, plus a little slack for making a gas stop or some other moderate stop. I'm sure many didn't pay any thought to their highway times. Maybe tomorrow they'll be aware of it! The time spent on the transfers is not included in the overall results, except the penalties you get there.
  4. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    so its like any rally...you should be ablw to figue out your time window....looks like a lot of people got excited.
  5. Just Paul

    Just Paul Pro Cat Herder

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    Mex1k - end of Day 1 - The combined results of today's 3 special tests end up like so...
    TIM Morton (thats me) with 10+ minute lead over Octavio Valle (Dakar trim 450x) then KTm 950 dude Mike (that bike hauls ass by the way) about another 5 minutes back.
    Andy Grider had bike problems. The KTM team of Vanscourt/Bolton/Jones had an issue too.
    It was strange but as I'm pinned down all those fast road...s I'm thinkin' to myself the bike should be a little faster, almost like I was pulling an anchor behind me. I just attributed it to the lack of knobs on the tire, the change of dirt, and that I was getting bored going so fast for so long.
    I finish the 3rd special test, all good, I knew I had 'em covered.
    Then I'm cruising down the Hwy.1 transfer stage and the mighty XR wasn't feeling so mighty.
    It started to bog, sputter, clack clack clack, done.
    That's all she wrote Folks!
    Crank is gone. :(
    My race is over, DNF.
    I sent my bike & gear away and now have just my backpack and some cash. Vagabond style.
    But don't stop reading Race Solo because I'm still here and now I'll be properly "hydrating" and might bring you some good entertainment!
    Now I'm off to the Griders place and gonna have Andy buy me a Pacifico (I've done VERY well so far at that this afternoon!).
  6. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    :nod Assuming I can read a chart, he did, but there's no guarantee that I can.:jump

    Nice job, Doug!:clap:clap:clap


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  7. troy safari carpente

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    NORRAs Mike Pearlman and Ken Cameron congratulate rally leader Michael Gilkey on his impressive maiden run

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    TIM MORTON LEADS Special Stage 2 on Day 1

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    Rally leader Michael Gilkey makes the most of the dry lake bed at Salada

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    Alexander Smith gets a bump from Mag 7 at Cocos

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    Michael Gaynor moments before getting bounced to the dirt in San Felipe

    The father and son team of Alexander and Malcom Smith road a 1980’s Husqvarna 2-stroke
    to a strong finish even after turning a top end at the end of the first timed section at Laguna Salada.
  8. Boatman

    Boatman Upward and onward!!

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    Boy,,, I'd be really surprised that Aaron made that mistake. He knows well enough how the timing works.
  9. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    I'm rooting for the #5 motorcycle. :D Two riders way out of their element and 3500 miles from home. Not a bad first day after shredding a tire and forced to replace it 2nd stage. The tiddler hit 96mph on the GPS! :eek1

    First time either of them tried to ride a roadbook or tracks was first stage...:lol3

    Long ways to go, though.
  10. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    interesting to note Boatman (seems you are correct), but on the latest (revised) results lists on NORRA.com, Aarons result (Moto #108) has been amended - no penalty of 114 minutes (early) and he now sitting in pos. 3 overall Moto.

    But with #151 reporting a DNF at end of Day One (busted crank), it seems the 950SE boys are pos. 1 & 2 for the start tomorrow...:deal

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align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>3</TD><TD align=middle>108</TD><TD>Aaron Gibson</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MH</TD><TD align=right>2:56:48</TD><TD align=right>1:10:58</TD><TD align=right>50:55</TD><TD align=right>54:55</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>4</TD><TD align=middle>57</TD><TD>Michael Gaynor</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MI</TD><TD align=right>3:05:38</TD><TD align=right>1:01:48</TD><TD align=right>1:00:10</TD><TD align=right>1:03:40</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>5</TD><TD align=middle>888</TD><TD>John Graves</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MG</TD><TD align=right>3:24:03</TD><TD align=right>1:14:11</TD><TD align=right>1:01:18</TD><TD align=right>1:08:34</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>5</TD><TD>Gus Holcomb</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MB</TD><TD align=right>3:29:47</TD><TD align=right>1:04:57</TD><TD align=right>1:17:15</TD><TD align=right>1:07:35</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>7</TD><TD align=middle>575</TD><TD>Malcolm Smith</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MD</TD><TD align=right>3:41:15</TD><TD align=right>1:40:51</TD><TD align=right>47:35</TD><TD align=right>59:19</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>13:30</TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>8</TD><TD align=middle>101</TD><TD>Joe Bolton</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MI</TD><TD align=right>3:59:05</TD><TD align=right>1:00:39</TD><TD align=right>1:56:00</TD><TD align=right>1:02:26</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>9</TD><TD align=middle>71</TD><TD>Chris Vestal</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MI</TD><TD align=right>4:03:04</TD><TD align=right>1:45:31</TD><TD align=right>1:00:23</TD><TD align=right>1:02:38</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>14:32</TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>10</TD><TD align=middle>42</TD><TD>Douglas Chapman</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MB</TD><TD align=right>4:10:44</TD><TD align=right>1:47:59</TD><TD align=right>1:05:45</TD><TD align=right>1:17:00</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>11</TD><TD align=middle>36</TD><TD>Nate Nickerson</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD align=right>4:22:07</TD><TD align=right>1:54:56</TD><TD align=right>1:00:10</TD><TD align=right>1:12:01</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>15:00</TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>12</TD><TD align=middle>484</TD><TD>Jesse Dalton</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD align=right>4:22:59</TD><TD align=right>1:55:16</TD><TD align=right>1:03:32</TD><TD align=right>1:10:41</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>13:30</TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>13</TD><TD align=middle>34</TD><TD>Matthew Seiler</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD align=right>4:23:07</TD><TD align=right>1:56:37</TD><TD align=right>1:00:20</TD><TD align=right>1:13:10</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>13:00</TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>14</TD><TD align=middle>12</TD><TD>Paul Fournier</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MG</TD><TD align=right>4:36:58</TD><TD align=right>2:13:38</TD><TD align=right>1:08:45</TD><TD align=right>1:14:35</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>15</TD><TD align=middle>911</TD><TD>Brock Usborne</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MI</TD><TD align=right>4:41:29</TD><TD align=right>1:55:34</TD><TD align=right>1:08:20</TD><TD align=right>1:04:35</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>33:00</TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD align=middle>571</TD><TD>Antonio Narino</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MI</TD><TD align=right>:00</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD align=middle>60</TD><TD>Ruben Hale</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MD</TD><TD align=right>:00</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD align=middle>35</TD><TD>Benjamin Greenwood</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD align=right>:00</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataOdd><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD align=middle>31</TD><TD>Andy Grider</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD align=right>:00</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR class=dataEven><TD align=middle>20</TD><TD align=middle>155</TD><TD>Octavio Valle</TD><TD> </TD><TD align=middle>MA</TD><TD 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  11. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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    Nice job for a 'B' rider, Aaron.:thumb


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  12. EvilClown

    EvilClown Reality show stunt double Super Moderator

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  13. loph917

    loph917 Beard Bros Racing

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  14. pilo

    pilo Rhymes with below

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    Awesome results guys...everyone is haulin'.
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  16. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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  17. GalacticGS

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    That's a bummer for Tim. The party starts early I guess...

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  18. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    that was pretty much my line of thought.
  19. UpST8

    UpST8 turnin gas to noise

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  20. Anders Green

    Anders Green NASA Rally Sport

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    Yup, Aaron's "penalty" was just an early version of the scoring numbers churning through. Time get entered as 14:15 instead of 15:14... you can imagine it would cause an problem. :deal

    Special treat for ADV! Here's the speed analysis from the scoring backend:

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