Mexico and Central America Ride Planning and Road Wisdom

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Jeff Munn, May 30, 2006.

  1. Pedro Navaja

    Pedro Navaja Long timer

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    Yeah, why take the risk?

    Whatever was the guy thinking who took the antique shotgun into Mexico? Now he's in jail and it's a big international ordeal. Is there a JoMomma thread on that? :evil
  2. rjzinc

    rjzinc The World is My Home

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    Trouble is, he wasn't thinking...:rofl
  3. Pedro Navaja

    Pedro Navaja Long timer

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    Apparently he asked a US border official if it was okay and he was told it was and to just declare it on the other side. WTF? I have never heard of anything like that. Why didn't this guy check with a Mexican consulate first? And even still, why take it anyways? Apparently he was driving down to Costa Rica to go surfing. WTF?
  4. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    Yeah, I travel everywhere with my antique shotgun. Doesn't everybody ?
  5. going south

    going south hero & Zero...

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    This is the Ride planning & wisdom thread: what I do riding through Mexico & central America, and when I do the bus, train, boat, plane thing through Asia, I get the sandwich size ziploc bags & sharpie marks a lot pen, write the country name on the bag in that white spot for whats inside, & keep every single scrap of paper from that Boarder crossing...
    It has come in handy a few times... + it keeps them dry... I think I learned this here.... on ADVrider...

    Regards, Jim...
  6. beemer67

    beemer67 Really Old airhead

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    Funny you mention that. I did same a half dozen years back. I crossed at Aqua Prieta and was expecting border facilities similar to Km21 at Nogales. So I just rode straight though the border, and kept on going. Didn't see anyone after 30km so just kept going. Rode to Creel and then came back. Was never asked for anything and returned same way. Next year, after finding out what I should have done, I happened to stay on Hwy2 past Aqua Prieta heading to Nogales and ran into the Imm./ Customs post. If I had gone this way the previous year I would have been in trouble.

    Always had the paperwork since (as I agree it is so simple) but that one year I was just very lucky and it worked.
  7. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    I tried to sneak in through A. Prieta one time after failing to cancel a different bike from a previous trip. Made it down to the checkpoint South and the guy asked for my permit. When I said I thought it was not required in Sonora he replied, "eres gringo tonto y mas pendejo que nunca," turn around and go get your permit.
    Having sold the previously permitted bike I then began the long and complicated process of clearing the TVIP for it. You don't want to be in this position if you like riding in Mexico.
  8. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    I was wondering when we would discuss that. He knew what he was doing was risky and I don't totally buy that story of getting forms from the US authorities to clear him for Mexico.

    Anyway, not seeing a lot of sympathy in this group for the guy but the Mexicans usually seem to only hold gringos for 4-5 months over firearms charges so he may be coming home soon.
  9. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Is that the one built into your walking cane? I hear those are legal everywhere ...


    {ducking for cover}
  10. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    No, I haven't progressed to one of those...yet. I just throw the shotgun over my shoulder and pretend its a golf club.......oh wait, I don't play golf anymore.:evil
  11. Sjoerd Bakker

    Sjoerd Bakker Long timer

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    You can say that again Mike!
    The nutty part is that the US Border Services want that tourist document handed in but provide NO handy designated spot where exiting tourists can simply hand it back in passing through the gate. Going into Mexico you have to find an illegal spot to park on the US side customs terminal exit-to -Mexico lanes , walk around and find sombody willing to accept it while getting snarky authoritarian remarks that one is not supposed to be walking around that area. On the Canadian border the same description applies but the Canadian customs booth will accept it and return it to the US as a courtesy, but even in that case the Yanks in the office tell you that that is not considered secure. The Mexicans absolutely will have nothing to do with returning such cards to the US guys and rightly so, too much frustrationfor them,
  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    I've heard that one or two Xanax with a vodka chaser can take the edge off angst like this

    :augie
  13. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

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    In March I crossed at El Ceibo and was not asked for a receipt for my tourist card , which I had to surrender prior to entering GT.

    I returned to Mexico via El Ceibo and although the Banjercito appeared to be open I was given my new Tourist card and a piece of paper and was told I could pay the fee at any MX Bank.

    About aweek aor so later I went to a bank and attempted to pay. What a clusterfuck. No one could decipher the boxes and questions on the small xerox copy of a form I had received. After 45 minutes someone finally just entered some made up data, money was taken and a receipt issued. BTW the bank manager and tellers were extremely patient and helpful.

    When I checked out at Agua Prieta I was asked for proof of payment for the Tourist Card that had been issued at El Ceibo
  14. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    I take it you also crossed El Ceibo on a Monday
  15. Cal

    Cal Long timer

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    Interesting topic... I always cancel my TVIP but have never cancelled the tourist card at the Northern border with the U.S., I have never been asked to cancel it. Been to Belize once and Guatemala twice and have cancelled the tourist card at these borders. They used to let you keep the TVIP for Mexico if you were coming back within the time alotted, I think that has changed?
    In 2010 I crossed back into Mexico at Tecun Uman and like Bob they gave me a xerox copy of a piece of paper with a couple of numbers on it and the stamped Tourist card, then said no bank here, just pay at any bank, this trip I still had my valid TVIP so did not need one.
    So a couple days later I stopped at Ban Norte in a small town in Chiapas and they had no clue how to take the payment.... so I walked across the street to Banamex and the teller knew excatly what to do, took my 262 pesos and gave me a recibo. I still have that recibo, I keep all my cancelled paper work but the ink on them fades to unreadable after a year or so:huh
  16. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    And the testimonies keep rolling in!

    To answer your question: no, when leaving Mexico for Guatemala you can keep your TVIP if you so desire.

    I was asked to produce it, on the Guatemala side oddly, so that the official could make a copy of it.
  17. donnh

    donnh Been here awhile

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    Hey guys - I've been following for a while and wanted to say thanks for all the Road Wisdom! I leave tomorrow on a trek from Seattle to Buenos Aries. Let's see..... skip the TVIP, loose the receipts, and ride at night, right?? :rofl

    The plan is Tecate on Jan 10, down to La Paz and catch the ferry to Mazatlan then Pacific side to Panama. Girag to Bogota then Machu Picchu, Pucon Chile and Buenos Aries. Piece of cake right?

    I'll be blogging along the way and keeping an eye on my ADVrider friends. Seriously, thanks for all the advice!
  18. acejones

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    Ride safe donnh and let us know how you're doing.
  19. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan aka SkiddMark ;^)

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    Buena suerte, donnh! I'll be looking for your post on using Girag.


  20. sunquest

    sunquest Adventurer

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    Any one know how the road is from Belize to Tekal and down, thinking of riding to Honduras through Guatemala but we are on my VFR Interceptor 2 up and it likes the paved roads " cant change bikes as we are in Puerto Escondido already" my GUIA ROJI maps include Guatemala and it shows paved but then again it is a Mexican Map any one been on the road lately?