Mexico and Central America Ride Planning and Road Wisdom

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Jeff Munn, May 30, 2006.

  1. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    i've got 35 pages to read, absorb, and remember...up to page 6 :(
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    Then start on the IMS thread. We're currently on post #15523.

    Seriously though, go to "Is Mexico Safe?" thread, introduce yourself and
    give us a basic idea of what you're putting together. Lots of current wisdom
    on riding the interior of Mexico and points south. Don't try to read the entire
    thread. Use Google to search Advrider: "site:advrider.com<SEARCH field>".

    For example: site:advrider.com Oaxaca hotel

    This will fast-track you to posts containing the info you want.
  5. kitesurfer

    kitesurfer Long timer

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    thanks shizzman. i do read that thread regularly. i just have too many questions to even post up at this point. where i am at present in my planning... 1. cross the border at matamoris (closest to me) 2. what time of year to go for the first time? june in fla and other coastal states is already too hot to ride comfortably and guessing 3 days just to hit the mex border.
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    I chip in here; I'd say cross at Matamoros or Reynosa. It really depends on where in Mexico you want to go. In the long run it probably doesn't matter. You can get there from here. As for when to go, see above. It depends on where you want to go. The higher elevations can be cold and have snow. I like March, April, and May,,also October. It will take threendays to get to the border. It takes me two or a Verrry long one.
    So, where do you want to go ?
  7. kitesurfer

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    acejones, i really don't care where at this point as it will be my first trip of many :) thinking Durango ....i retire in 3 years and plan on an extended ride through mex then. at some point, i would like to fly my wife in and show her a week of mexico, staying in cheap hotels and hostels.
  8. SkizzMan

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    Have you found a Mexico Ride Report that inspires you? That can be a good way to start a trip plan. There's likely several Mexico riders poised to offer you input as soon as you begin to dial in your trip concept.

    If you're interested in Durango (a great choice, BTW) it makes more sense to cross in the Reynosa area at the Anzalduas bridge. Consider Veracruz, as well. Nice town with lots of great riding in surrounding mountains.

    Look into San Miguel de Allende as a stop when your wife joins you. Beautiful place.
  9. kitesurfer

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    thanks Shizzman. i'm also searching the web for articles of people taking their meager retirements and moving to mexico. many ride reports show pics of miles of undeveloped beaches. living on the beach cannot happen for me in florida. i've been saving for a new corvette for my retirement present, but thinking this little pot of money could maybe be better spent in mexico.
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    You can make several trips to Mexico and have a lot of fun for what you'll spend on a Corvette and insurance. My biggest hurdle, as yours will be, is the time it takes to get to the border. Shizzman makes some good points ( he usually does) about Veracruz. You could cross at either McAllen or Brownsville and ride on down to Tampico and then to Veracruz. On the way back stop in Papantla and see some nice Mayan ruins at El Tajin.
    Veracruz has some nice restaurants and a nice square.
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    Those are Totonac ruins at Tajin. Just to avoid any confusion.
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    Ah, no

    The Totonac sank in the Atlantic in 1912.
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    Si ! I was in error. However, my error doesn't diminish the significance of Tajin. The Pyramid of the Niches is incredible, just to mention one.
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    Hello

    Thanks for contributing to this thread. Lot's of good information.

    I will be making a post to 'Is MX safe' thread as well, detailing my proposed trip.

    For now, I need just a little clarification.
    Is the Passport Card and Tourist Card the same thing?

    I'm in and out of Mexico every couple of months and have always flown. I always get a card that says I'm good for 180 days (told them we have a time share in Cabo...). Is THAT the tourist card or the passport card? Or Both?

    In brief, I plan on riding my bike down here and staying in Oaxaca for the next couple of months, then riding it back. Probably won't be going down south this time around, although I might fly to Costa Rica for a week at some point.

    Ok, now over to the other thread with a little more detail about the route, etc..

    Thanks very much.

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    Passport card = passport for ground travel only between US and Mexico (and Canada, Caribbean, etc.). Take both passport and passport card in case you need to fly home, etc.

    180 day tourist visa card and TVIP (Temporary Vehicle Importation Permit) are required for your planned trip route after leaving the Tourist Zone along the border. You only need the passport or passport card + DL + original or official copy of vehicle registration to acquire the TVIP. Vehicle title NOT required. If asked for present registration. Plus cash deposit (up to $400 depending on vehicle) OR credit card IN YOUR NAME.

    Insurance is not legally required but highly recommended.
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    PASSPORT and PASPORT CARD are travel identification documents issued by your home country ..usually valid for something like 5 years( length depends on your country?) Most people who have a passport do not also need a passport card, just needless duplication. The card is perhaps only good for a country sharing borders with your home country.
    The PP or PP Card only means that your home government is allowing you to go out and come back. The other countries allow you in as a courtesy and will issue their own document for that and stamp your passport.
    The 180 day card you refer to is , I bet, the Tourist Card you were issued by the Mexican Migracion desk at time you landed there .You had to pay a fee for it each time a new one was issued.
    All clear now?

    Like Schizzman says, if you go in with a vehicle beyond the border zone
    you need the additional TVIP and its associated fees
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    Sjoerd is like an hermano to me, but I disagree wildly with this.

    I take both to Mexico, and keep them separated.

    If one of these documents decides to take a hike and get lost, its brother gets me home.

    I keep my passport card with my lunar module spare engine ignition key :freaky
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    If you "forget" to turn in your FMM when leaving Baja, you can mail it to:
    Instituto Nacional De Migracion
    Puente Puerta S/N
    Colonia Federal
    Tijuana, B.C. Mexico C.P. 22310