Mexico and Central America Ride Planning and Road Wisdom

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Jeff Munn, May 30, 2006.

  1. pilot

    pilot Slacker Moderator Super Moderator

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    We stopped at the gas station in San Juan del Sur and asked about it. Then we tried to find the road and couldn't. The guy at the gas station said there was no crossing there. He said the road ended. It was only about fifteen miles back to CA1. Cool town, too. Seems to be a tourist as in backpacker type town with a lot of fishing boats and sail boats in the harbor. Plenty of internet cafes.
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  2. MJS

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    My maps show the road south from San Juan also but we did not try it. No one I spoke to could tell me if it went through. The town is growing. Lots of signs for real estate offices selling beachfront lots. Someone told me it had been featured on some international living sites, hence the upswing in interest.

    There is a great resturant run by an english women a couple blocks from the beach (sorry can't remember the name). Also, we found the Hotel Colonial to be inexpensive and good.

    My maps also showed the crossing by the lake. One map showed a road on both sides of the river, the other only showed road on one side and only swamp on the other side. I would have tried it if I had more time. I'd like a couple of weeks in nicaragua next time, lit ooks like lots of good adv riding to be had. And maybe a smaller bike than the 1200GS.
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  3. Shaft

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    Bumpity for a great thread........:kumbaya
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  4. Aussie_Gringo

    Aussie_Gringo The anti-septic

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    One of the best :deal
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  5. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z Long timer

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    They can't even break $5 quite often. Good idea to carry a wad of $1 (and $5) bills everywhere. They've come in handy for me several times.

    Same for me on the permit. I never said a word to the guy about how long I'd be there. I got 60 days stamped. I never paid $5 to anyone...

    Agreed and agreed.



    My color copies of all my documents have been accepted everywhere without question, except my first entrance into Guatemala. The woman told me she needed the original. I told her she was the first to notice.. and she never mentioned it again. She didn't point out my fake drivers license. :evil


    I paid the ~$30, but I don't think I paid $10 to anyone else. Paid a reciepted $3 to the customs agent who stamped my passport.


    In my case, four hours, although that spanned 1.5 hour lunch. After lunch, an office worker came out and helped me through. I don't know if that's standard or not, but she brought all my papers to the copier, the bank, customs, immigration... and whenever she needed something from me (A few bucks or a signature) she asked me for it.


    Jamie
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  6. johnjen

    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    A copy of this threads write up is now in the Hall of Wisdom.

    JJ
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  7. Aussie_Gringo

    Aussie_Gringo The anti-septic

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    Thank you, this information will serve many riders venturing into the Outer Darkness in the future.

    Thank you.
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  8. Django Loco

    Django Loco Banned

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    Better late than never I always say...good move JJ.

    You can read my thoughts on ADV and the value of this type of thread back on post #22, page two.
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  9. johnjen

    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    We are currently working on a way to get more threads/writeups included in the HoW. Once we get 'enough' of them we will probably create a sub-list in the HoW just for trip planning and the like.


    ps. I wasn't aware of ANY requests for these files to be added to the HoW. I did put up stickies in ALL of the technical forums asking for suitable submissions, just not here in Regional. My Bad

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  10. Lone Rider

    Lone Rider Registered User

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    Thanks for work, JJ, seriously.

    Use the same paypal as before, please...
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  11. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Don't be to Blingy.
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    Don't be Arrogant at all.

    And you will do just fine.
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  12. johnjen

    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    [coneofsilence] just like before? [/coneofsilence]

    JJ

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  13. Django Loco

    Django Loco Banned

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    Where is HoW? (Hall of Wisdom) I know I've seen it. It must be buried deep somewhere by now or taken off?

    Oh, so an actual adventure travel planning info forum will be buried yet further.....?
    I only asked for a sticky for Jeff's great post...and brought up the idea of having an actual trip planning forum or nuts and bolt type ride report...specifically geared for out of USA, NON rally, non brand specific RTW type trips. I've made this suggestion many times going back five years or so.

    Technical forum? :huh Why would a thread (or threads) about trip planning and actual travel OUT OF THE USA.....be in a technical forum? Outer Darkness is only just north of Exploding Heads or the Antarctic regional forum for level of obscurity. Sure, lets bury the only REAL adventure relevant forum here. I really don't think you guys get it at all.
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  14. Jeff Munn

    Jeff Munn Just along for the ride..

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    JJ,
    First, let me say thank you for being a moderator, and for seeing that this great site can still be made even better. Many people would be happy to just leave well enough alone, but you seem to be active in trying improve it. Thanks for that.

    I too, (like Django Loco) have experienced frustration with trying to find information that I could use to plan a ride to a new region. There is simply no place in ADVrider where good sound information, written by someone who has been there, can be easily found. I think that is sad. There is a world of experience here, and we need to be able to more easily tap into that. Of course that will burden a moderator with trying to separate good information from story-telling and opinion, but maybe there could be a rating system that would allow the readers to decide if something should stay in a HoW type travel planning forum.

    I'd also love to see any new type listing of travel information elevated to the same category as all the other forums on the "home page". Burying it on a tiny click-link at the bottom of the page next to the "donate" page and navigational directions does it a disservice. I'd wager that 90% of the people who visit ADVRider can't tell you where the HoW is. Separating out the maintenance tips from riding tips is critical too. When I go to the HoW page, my first reaction is oh..... its all wrenching tips.... click. I'd bet you a beer that is what most people do too.

    Anyway, thanks for addressing this and listening to us whine. Believe it or not, we too want to see ADVRider grow and improve. Starting a Ride Planning forum for travel outside the continental US would be something that could take this site to another level.

    Thanks for listening.
    jeff

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  15. johnjen

    johnjen I've Been Resigned

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    After DJ's last response I was going to actively ignore this thread, talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

    But with JM's last post I will make this my last post in this thread.

    Perhaps you and others have been trying to get the mods attention, but as I stated previously, I had placed a request for submissions as a sticky in EVERY technical forum. Did you completely miss ALL of them? Did anyone think to pm me, or in anyway try to contact me?

    AND the text in those stickies doesn't restrict submissions to tech articles.

    "This is an invitation to any and all who wish to contribute to the Hall of Wisdom...

    If you have a write-up that would or could be of help or perhaps it may just be of interest to the general populace here at ADVrider... This is your lucky day... We can now, thru the modern miracle of computer technology, enable your very own words and pictures to be made available to the entire known universe...

    All you have to do is get it whipped into shape so that you won't embarass yourself, let alone the rest of us... I mean my dog we do have an image to uphold

    If you want, use any of the existing offerings in the HoW as examples of what looks good and has worked OK thus far....

    Contact me and we can take it to the next level...


    So I'd have to conclude that all of you who have been trying in vain to get the attention of us mods weren't trying all that hard. If you think that by just posting a request in a thread is enough, get a clue.

    ADVrider is HUGE, there is no way a few posts buried inside a thread or 12 is going to get enough attention. We have 27 mods who deal with 209,949 Threads, 4,619,451 Posts and 43,769 registered Inmates.

    If you, OR ANYONE has a great idea to make ADVrider a better place let a mod (or 2 or 3) know, directly via PM. Being a Mod means you donate your time and interest, and as such, things have and will slip thru the cracks. You want to complain that no one paid enough attention to your furtive pleas for a separate place for just a few threads/posts/writeups? Join the crowd.

    Perhaps you don't remember the uproar that ensued when the scooter forum was created. A forum dedicated to just trip planning would be infinitesimal in comparison. Yes it's a good idea, that is why I'm pursuing this and will continue to do so (despite the attitude displayed thus far).

    Perhaps IF trip planning becomes popular enough it might get it's own forum, but thats a mighty big if. Right now the best place for these types of write ups is the HoW. And if you can't find the HoW, ASK. After all it is available from EVERY PAGE, how many other resources here can make that claim?

    If you really want to get things moving, start submitting threads, posts, writeups. And let's see how much momentum can be created. That and that alone will determine how far this will go, as it always has.

    JJ
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  16. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z Long timer

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    To return this thread to Road Wisdom...

    I just returned to the US from Mexico after transiting most of Central America. I crossed at Laredo, bridge #2. I hadn't yet paid my $20 tourist visa, and nobody ever asked for it when I crossed the border. $20 saved.

    Jamie
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  17. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    Since the visas are multiple entry, they don't ask for it when you leave, you have to go to the immigration section (not always the same place as Banejercito/vehicle import permit, not sure what it's like in Laredo) and return it to get an exit stamp in your passport. :deal

    You may get asked about it next time you go to Mexico, depending on how diligent the officer you get is. If you didn't return it/get an exit stamp, they'll consider you as if you had overstayed your visa, most likely you'll have to pay a fine. I doubt you'll end up saving any money.


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  18. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    A few months ago the geniuses at Mexican immigration decided to push off charging the visa fees to the local banks. Almost nobody was paying and later turning in the visas. Last week we went to get the new ones and they made us all pay right on the spot. They are now tracking the personal visas much more closely. The vehicle permits more so! Many paisanos are finding they can't bring their trucks back into Mexico because the computer shows the earlier permit was never returned. The screaming and swearing is becoming a ritual.
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  19. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    I don't recall ever paying the immigration officer directly, it always was at a bank. Not sure where you typically cross, but in the Juarez area not all border crossings have banks on location (or they don't keep same hours as the migra), so paying at a bank in town (any town) has been routine for years. All they cared about was that it was stamped "paid" when you returned the form upon leaving Mexico.

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  20. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    For a while there the Banjercito quit processing the visas and referred us to local banks anywhere in Mexico. Now the immigration won't finish processing it until the Banjercito next window down has been paid. I cross in Laredo and Brownsville.
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