Mexico's Bicimaps vs. E32 maps?

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Mexico, Central & South America' started by Hipster, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. stormdog

    stormdog Been here awhile

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    The quality of the Belize and Guatemala maps are quite a bit lower then the Mexico map.
    Most of the small to medium towns only show the main road. It was enough to get by but no where near the detail of the Mexico map.
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  2. kevin2735

    kevin2735 Been here awhile

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    Anyone have or use any maps of Baja on their smartphone? LBMaps, Bicmaps, and E32 maps all seem to be very device specific for Garmin. Not sure if any of these work with the Garmin app on the iPhone. I would love to get the E32 maps on my iPhone. Thanks!
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  3. artbone

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  4. RdrMtn

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    Resurrecting an older thread here: I'm new to GPS but have ridden Baja twice before on my XR650R. My question is: Does the E32 map automatically show all the dirt roads and trails on the screen at all times, or do you have to choose which track etc. you want to display? From what I can tell, you simply load the E32 map and ride, following different roads and trails as you wish without selecting anything to follow or display. Am I correct? I'd appreciate any feedback very much.

    Looking to load it on an Etrex 20. The 2014 E32 update looks amazing.
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  5. haket

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    The maps I bought through Garmin operate more like a road mapset where all trails are visible and can route. The downside I found was that (on my 62s at least) I had to zoom way the hell In before the trails were visible. Not an issue in Basecamp but on the unit it was a pain to change the route in the field. Having paper to do the general route planning and the unit to notify of trail junctions worked great.
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  6. Warin

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    That appears to me to be Garmin policy - all the 'dirt adventure roads' are only shown at the most zoomed in layer. You may be able to set your GPS to display more detail .. I have my 60 set to display 'most' detail, with the anti clutter on .. so when there is too many things on the screen at once it does not display some of them .. like when you go into a town, but away from the town you have a better chance of seeing the good roads/tracks.
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  7. RdrMtn

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    Thanks for the replies! Helps a lot. I'll try to remember to report back after our trip in March.
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  8. haket

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    I was hoping for the same thing, I spent too much time onto the Garmin cust support trying to get the detail levels right, but they gave up in the end, such a pity as all the data is there and the resolution of the 62 is well up to it. Its the Garmin curse....
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  9. Scotty Breauxman

    Scotty Breauxman Baja Breaux

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    I've been testing the new 2015 updates for E32 and I keep seeing more and more rider in BAJA CA using these maps to make trails, plan trips and most important, stay out of trouble.
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    This tool is being used at a high level here in BAJA. We use the maps for a variety of purposes for the BAJA RALLY stage making process. What is really cool is when we use the printed topo maps to gain permission from private land owners, Ejidarios, and working with government officials. They seem to appreciate our efforts and that we have, in most cases, better maps of their property than they do.
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    My team and I can't stop singing the praises of this mapping software, which come to find out, is a hand-made effort, likened to an artisan craft, where the toil to literally hand-draw every line on the map, section by section. Omar and his crew really have to love what they do to keep these updates coming.

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    If you do any riding in Baja CA or Mexico, E32 is an essential tool for safety and adventure.
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  10. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    I agree! I just purchased and downloaded the 2015 E32 map set and the detail is amazing! Planning a trip to Baja in a few months and these maps are going to be a great tool for both the planning and navigation of that trip. I've checked accuracy of many of the roads we've ridden in the past to what is on these maps and they seem to be spot on. Great job with this product Omar!! :thumb
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  11. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    The Wild Bunch In The Remote Backcountry of Mexico's Sierra Gorda

    Our lead navigator, JT, used E32 principally on our very recent odyssey into Mexico searching for new dirt with which to possibly expand MexTrek.

    It wasn't on my GPS, which was a Garmin 62 variant.

    Now, E32 and a Garmin Montana is standard equipment on Caballo Naranjo, my Mexico moto

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    JT brought along Basecamp on his MacBook Air, and did a lot of track updating with the help of Google Earth, on the fly.

    Sure, Baja. But also for mainland Mexico, it's hard to be E32
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  12. LaPorte

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    I have been looking for a better Baja map for my GPS and it looks like the Cartografica E32 might be it. I have been using LB Maps and is OK but don't show much in the way of roads/trails. So you have to build your own routes/tracks as you ride the Baja. I like to lay out a course/tracks at home on my PC. From a starting location to a destination, download it to my GPS and then go ride it. Sounds like the E32 has lot's of roads/trails already on the map to use. For those who have purchased the E32 maps, how difficult was it to load and use.
    Thanks in advance for any info
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  13. MJS

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    As easy as any other map product, i.e. Garmin. Just run the installer and it will appear in Basecamp. From there load in your GPS.

    Btw, I have and use multiple Mexico maps (E32, Atlas (taken over by Garmin), LB and City Nav. LB is the most basic of Baja map products. E32 by far the most useful.
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  14. GCecchetto

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    They don't list E32 maps as compatible with the Zumo 590LM. I find that very hard to believe, they are compatible with essentially every other Zumo model. I have emailed them to confirm compatibility, but thought someone here may know that answer to this.

    These maps are fully routable yes?
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  15. LaPorte

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    I purchased and loaded Cartografia E32. Now I have LB Maps, Mexico GPS Atlas and Cartografia E32 loaded in my PC. When I access an existing track that was laid out in either LB Maps or Mexico GPS Atlas and zoom in, I find the track is not spot on the road location shown in Cartografia E32. In some places the track is out in the middle of now where (no road/trail at all). Re-did the track lay out in Cartografia E32 so it was spot on the road locations. Wont know what I will find until I do a Baja run. One thing for sure Cartografia E32 does show much, much more detail.
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  16. Hill Climber

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    I too have Mexico GPS Atlas and Cartografia E32 in my gps for navigating, and, I also have plain old City Navigator Mexico too. CN is less confusing without topo lines... comes in handy when you need to auto route on common roads. CN is also helpful in larger cities with it's extensive POI database.

    I have found that E32 trails and roads are fairly accurate, however, I have discovered that some of these trails (veredas and brechas) are decades old ("expired", if you will), and are impossible to get through. As well, hurricanes come through and change things up considerably, to the point where there was a trail last year, the landscape has changed so much that it's just a boulder garden. (My experience in Baja only)

    I'd suggest that when creating tracks, also create work arounds in the event you need an alternative escape.

    You can also confirm if there is or was a road/trail by checking it in google earth. Once your track is loaded in Basecamp or Mapsource, click "View" and scroll down to "View in google earth". Your track will be show in GE. (GE map date created is displayed at the bottom, so pay attention to that. sometimes sections of maps are 6 or more years old.....)
    Or, get creative and adventurous and create tracks in google earth, then convert them to tracks then view on your favourite Baja map....

    I also recommend you carry a paper map "Baja Almanac". Invaluable. I photocopy the areas I'm planning to ride in and use them as working maps.
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  17. LaPorte

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    Thanks Hill Climber, good info. Well they call this type of riding an adventure. It wouldn't be one if something didn't go wrong :rofl
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  18. mexicomaps

    mexicomaps MexicoMaps.com

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    BiciMapas licensed their Mexico data to Garmin. The TOPO Mexico product has Mexico only. It is formatted as one big file so it isn't compatible with all Garmin products nor does it contain the Central America data.
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  19. skeelo221

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    Good thread, thanks for the info. Sounds like the E32 is still the one to get
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  20. Grynch

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    So which Garmin is the best bang for the buck? I need one that will work in the car and bike, for in and around Acapulco and D.F.
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