Michelin Anakee 2 vs Metzeler Tourance on 1200 gsAdv?

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  1. mikijakovadv

    mikijakovadv Been here awhile

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    Hi to all tyre melting chaps :D
    Lets see your opinion about this 2 same category tires. Just about to change my second set of Battlewing to ride around Europe in November....and thinking about this two choices hhmmmm... What is cons and pros between this two! Which one is better for gravel/fire road,street use? Better grip on wet roads?
    What say you with great experience :D
    Thanks a lot!
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  2. Bill-66

    Bill-66 Hencho in Kansas

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  3. TaterHarry

    TaterHarry Redneck Emeritus

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    For gravel roads and wet grip, the Anakee is superior to the Tourance.

    The Tourances wear better, and that's about it. IMO, YMMV, etc etc :D
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  4. slowoldguy

    slowoldguy Tire Tester

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    Virtually indistinguishable to me. Both are ice-skates on anything loose and powdery. Both are great street tires. I get a few hundred more miles out of Tourances.
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  5. Adrian63

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    I've always used Anakee's or TKC, the Anakee's are a good road tire
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  6. IRONDOG

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    My 2011 GSA came with Michelin Anakee 2's(the tires I wanted). I have been very happy with them until my replacement rear with about 50% tread failed on me!:cry I guess they are not made to go 110 mph for about 20-30 miles continuous...the tire lost a chunk of tread about 2.5" x 7" at 110 mph. They have a speed rating of H or V , depending where you look(tire says V, paperwork says H)...still at least 130 mph. The casing still held air though...I guess thats a good thing. I was able to limp it home 55 miles. I dont think I will run any more Michelins though!
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  7. mikijakovadv

    mikijakovadv Been here awhile

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    It is wise to check where is it made :huh
    At least in europe, best quality michelin is always made in France as some other eastern countrys also made them,but quality is questionable :deal
    I was very happy with my battlewings on rain and dry tarmac,only they don't last long, max 8000 miles. I like anakee wide pattern which is better for light off road or not?? Still have to test them both....
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  8. legendmc

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    I just recently completed a round-trip to Alaska and back. I put tourance on my girlfriend's bike and anakees on mine. Both bikes were BMW R1200GSs. The anakee 2 is a superior tire in my estimation. It seemed to do better on the gravel and held great in the rain! Although I did pick up a nail in the rear tire about 200 miles from my home on the return trip.
    I purchased the anakees on a recommendation from my brother-in-law. He says he gets about 15 - 17 k out of them. After about 7,500 miles (after finishing the AK ride) I inspected the tires from both bikes. Were it not for the nail, I MAY have gotten about another 2k out of the tires. The tourances looked like they might have gotten another 5k. So, IMHO, the metzlers get the mileage nod. Seeing that I had to replace my tires anyway, I decided to replace the anakees with the tourances. The first thing I noticed was that the bike seemed to be about a half an inch to an inch taller! So, the tourances seem to have a slightly taller profile with identical tire sizes (more rubber = longer mileage?). After putting about 500 - 800 miles on the tourances, I have decided that I definitely like the anakees better. The anakees feel stickier and in my estimation, handle better on the blacktop. The tread on the anakee is more aggressive. While I have not ridden the metzlers off the pavement yet, based on tread aggressiveness, I would probably give the nod to the Michelin. I would gladly trade a few mile of longevity for better handling and off-road traction.
    My brother-in-law commutes freeways on his bike (R1200GSA), which may contribute to the mileage he gets on anakees.
    I have heard and read great things about both tires. It comes down to preference. I prefer the Michelin Anakee 2.
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  9. TBob

    TBob Offroad Fab Guy

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    X2 - this is what I run on my cast wheels
    on my spoked wheels I run TKC 80 up front and K60 out back.

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  10. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Just put Anakee 2s on my GSA and so far so good. I took them off road yesterday and they worked surprisingly well over some loose stuff and in short patches of thick goo. I was surprised they clawed their way through one swampy section without to much of an issue. Also bounced them over some pretty rough rocks and had no issues. I was running them at 30psi the entire time.
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  11. vagueout

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    My experience is with the heavier 1150 pig, i have used both tyres extensively and there is not a lot between them. I agree with most posters here in that the tourances last a little longer, but the annakee 11's do feel very sticky in the wet. On sealed roads i feel the tourances have a more accurate feel to them, almost a pinpoint precision that the annakees dont quite have . Offroad i do prefer the annakees, again not much in it, imo they are both great allrounders on the gs.:*sip*
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  12. DualMule

    DualMule Been here awhile

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    I totally agree...I really can't tell the difference where it matters.
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  13. Tobz

    Tobz Ne'er-du-well

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    On the Anakee my dealer asks me if I want the H rated or the V rated as they are differnt part numbers, and the V rated tire costs slightly more. I definetly don't need the 149 mph V on my 1150GSA, but I've often wondered if they ride the same.
    Loosing a chunk of tread that size is a serious issue, but it could have been compromised by unseen road debris.
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  14. mikijakovadv

    mikijakovadv Been here awhile

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    Thanks for replay!
    It looks I will go for Anakee2. Few miles I can sacrifice for more safety on wet and little wider threads....
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  15. PanhandleChuck

    PanhandleChuck 3rdRockAdvRider

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    Good information, but still leaves me questioning my next tire. I'm guessing individual experience is the real answer. The OEM on my GSA (2010) came with Metzler Tourance EXP's. I ride 95% on the road and the tire grip was awesome, confidence inspiring, damn toe dragging on the Cherohala (downside lifespan of 7k). However, in preparation for a 6k summer ride to Canada I let my dealer talk me into the original Tourance. I realize the EXP is 95/5 and the original is 85/15. I had thoughts of removing the Tourance tires in Bloomberg. The bike was just so tight, steering had to be deliberate, I thought it could stand by itself! Once I hit 4k miles the bike became free again, and at 6k the tires look great. The pros and cons for me are handling and milage, so I 'm looking for a happy middle ground. I have a friend who has Anakee's on his GS, says he will go back to Tourance. I'm leaning towards trying the Anakee's for my own opinion and riding style. Any other 90/10 road gripping tires outside committing a sin and putting RP 2/3's on a GS!:lol3
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  16. Motzilla

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    I believe it is a very personal choice. I had battlewings without complaints, now tourance, no complaints either. I drive very conservative in the rain anyways. I wear evenly both front and rear tires, use very little braking, 22,000 km and brake pads have still more than half of their useful life according to my BMW mechanic. I should add that I do keep up with sportbikes in twisties and canyons, I have worn the outside of my boots on my 12 GSA, and never had a tourance slide from under me, but I will definitely try Anakee next and see.:1drink
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  17. Motzilla

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    I believe it is a very personal choice. I had battlewings without complaints, now tourance, no complaints either. I drive very conservative in the rain anyways. I wear evenly both front and rear tires, use very little braking, 22,000 km and brake pads have still more than half of their useful life according to my BMW mechanic. I should add that I do keep up with sportbikes in twisties and canyons, I have worn the outside of my boots on my 12 GSA, and never had a tourance slide from under me, but I will definitely try Anakee next and see.:1drink
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  18. SkiFly01

    SkiFly01 Govna Racepipe

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    well through my experience the Tourance can handle abuse of speed just fine. However, recently when I started searching for a set of Anakee's I could find rear but not a front. It seems they are on a shortage or being phased out so you may not really have a choice here before too long.
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  19. scopedr

    scopedr What have I done???

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    I was also in the boat deciding whether to get a pair of Tourances or Anakee 2's. So I ordered a set of Anakee's and will get them mounted on the rims. They surely have to be better than the Battlewings that originally came with the bike. I was able to find a front and rear tire, with the shortage of front tires right now, I feel lucky to have found one.

    The Tourances were a close second in my choice of tire.
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  20. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Anakees have proven to be a great road tire for me so far, turn in is predictable and smooth with loads of grip. I don't have enough miles on them to offer comment on wear. I have had them off road and the initial impression is as previously posted with little update based on a little trip some of us took a couple of days ago. Not great front tire traction in the slippery stuff, like mud or sand. The front wants to wash out but the rear seems to have enough grip to push you through light mud. Here is a link to a video of part of the ride, a bit long but right before the crash you see where I bounce my GSA up some rough rocks, bottomed the front suspension but the tires kept grip and no damaged on the thread from the ride.
    http://youtu.be/N_f7lEkcoqA

    Shorter vid http://youtu.be/HfOZHLVyGn8
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