Michelin "Desert Racing" tires

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Doc.Snyder, Aug 7, 2009.

  1. Doc.Snyder

    Doc.Snyder Long timer

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    Has anybody experience with Michelin "Desert Racing" tires? On a 950?

    140/80 R18

    Winner of every major rally in the world, from Paris-Dakar to the Nevada Rally
    Unbeatable performance in the most punishing conditions, on all types of terrain
    Highly resistant to cuts, even at temperatures above 120 degrees Fahrenheit
    DOT approved for highway use
    This tire is part of a matching set, click to see the Desert Racing Front Tire

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  2. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    I have used both the Michelin Desert front and rear and the Michelin Baja rear on my 950. I got almost 3000 miles out of the desert rear while riding the TAT with a loaded 950. They are good tough tires that take a beating. Last I checked they were not making them any more. I like the Baja a lot but it was a little softer and didn't last as long.
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  3. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    Michelin Desert rear, I can get about 1500 off road miles out of it before it starts to lose its bite. You could run it at least a couple thousand before its useless though. But if you really hammer the shit out of it, I'd give it 500 - 1000 miles. Excellent tire in the dirt and very well behaved on pavement for a knobby. Superior in every respect to the 908RR rear except for longevity. If I ride like a grandpa I can get almost 3K out of a 908, but thats the only good thing about it.

    No experience with the front as I run MT-21's
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  4. bthebird

    bthebird Knight in muddy armor

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    I've just put on a Michelin T63 on the front of my superenduro. The T63 rear I do not yet have, because my current tkc80 is still good.
    The T63 rear has exactly the same thread pattern as a Michelin Desert, but has way better grip in colder climates and on wet roads, this has something to do with the softer compound. The T63 front is not the same pattern as the front Desert, and seems less agressive and therefore is more suitable to dual sporting than real offroading. But for the trails I do, this tire is great! It's somewhat like a metzeler Karoo 2 "T".
    Some inmates here ride with a combo T63/Desert.
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  5. 950TRANSALP

    950TRANSALP Been here awhile

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  6. Doc.Snyder

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    Yep, that was the reason, why I was asking :lol3
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  7. Doc.Snyder

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    ...Found another nice tire...

    Pirelli Scorpion Rally

    FRONT REAR
    90/90 - 21 M/C 54R MST 140/80 - 18 M/C 70R MST

    The Advanced compound Mixing Process ensures high resistance to fatigue and long lasting life performance for top tear and wear resistance also in long stages
    Pirelli reinforced structure reduces spinning effect (-10%) and so lowers the operative temperature (-10 °C) for more traction in all terrain conditions and at every temperature/speed
    Best directionality of the front tire and wider working surface on the rear for maximum control in over-steering and all the power can be delivered to the ground

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  8. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    When I got my adventure back in 05 there were very few 140/80/18 rear tire options...the Michelin deserts were about it. Now at least there are quite a few options.
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  9. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    Whoa, now thats cool. Wonder if they will market that in South America. :scratch That would be good.
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  10. ryanwilliamcantrell

    ryanwilliamcantrell Get Out and Ride!!

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    Lasted 1500 miles of very easy throttle.
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    ryanwilliamcantrell Get Out and Ride!!

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  12. MH950SE

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    I had a set on my SE but I switched them for the Metzeler Enduro Sahara III. The Deserts were great offroad, but I found them useless onroad, and particularly frightening on wet tarmac. As I also use my bike for commuting, the Sahara are much better for my heart-rate and still pretty good offroad.
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  13. bdefen

    bdefen Been here awhile

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    I'm having good luck with my Dunlop 908 RR on the rear. I have 2,300 miles of mixed road and trail riding, and still have at least 700 - 1,000 miles worth of tread left. Nice to see other, right-sized options, as well.
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  14. rotax793

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    Does anybody know the difference between "Michelin Desert" and "Michelin Desert Race"? Are the "Desert"-variant just the successor or what? :confused
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    I don't know, but I would also like to know the difference! Or about somebody who has tried it on an LC8..

    I've read that the Desert Race version (this would be the newer) is designed for 450 ccm bikes (current Dakar bikes).. And I've heard that the "old" Desert is not made anymore:( - which is quite a disappointment for me, as it used to be my favourite tire..
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  16. SpeedyR

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    typically a lot of the high end "race" tires for the big rallies are one off race tires that are a radial construction. most of your off road product tires are bias-ply tires.

    my guess is that the "race" version is a radial, or at least a construction closer to that..
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  17. rotax793

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    So you mean it could be that it's the same pattern, only a firmer inner construction? :wink:
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  18. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    I have always used Michelin Deserts on my race bikes, but have also used both the T63 and Dunlop 908RR over the years too... (on my XR650R).

    I'd say the 908RR rear is a great dual-sport (ie. road and trail use) tyre, having ridden one from the UK to Morocco and back as far as Northern Spain before it was worn out.

    I've also used T63s (front and rear) on the XR, and found they were pretty useless by about 1000 miles - I wouldn't recommend them on a big heavy/powerful bike - the Deserts will really last twice as long...

    However, if you are on a budget - as a previous poster suggested, the T63 rear is similar to the Michelin Desert rear... while I'd add that the Michelin AC10 front is a very similar tread pattern to the Desert front - all are DoT street legal tyres.

    Jx
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  19. SpeedyR

    SpeedyR SE in the SE

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    actually a radial typically is softer construction, but when racing they also use a mousse insert which feels about like 8psi, but no problems with flats so the more flexible carcass will conform to the terrain better (more traction) but with no chance of flats.

    also it's usually more expensive but racers don't care. well, at that level anyway. ;)
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  20. mmurry

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    burned up the rear on my SE pretty dang fast... the front truly is terrifying on the highway... but awesome on dirt.... going to try TKC's when my mich enduro's are done..
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