Michelin Pilot Road 4 Trail Tires

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by RoadRdr, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. AviatorTroy

    AviatorTroy Long timer

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    Was that your first tire change? The bead can be difficult to break. I have never had any success with using the kick stand. I use the HF bead breaker like you have and it makes it so easy. I do a couple tires a month around here and all you need is 2 or 3 spoons depending on how many hands you have. Here's the secret...

    The #1 problem people have is not keeping the bead in the groove of the wheel opposite where you are prying. If the bead isn't down in the groove, you will never get anywhere.
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  2. Av3

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    You mean this one?
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    Left = standard and GT combined.
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  3. Skyliner33

    Skyliner33 Been here awhile

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    Thats the diagram yes, would the GT tyre not be better than the standard for a GS due to the weight, Im guessing the GT version has a stiffer carcass?
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  4. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    I replaced a PR3 front with a PR4 earlier this year. It felt heavier and sluggish compared to the 3, not as eager to tip in on tight turns. Rides fine on straight slabs...

    I'm going to think hard about tires when it comes time to replace the rear (still a PR3 on there now) - I like longevity, but want responsiveness. The PR3s were perfect, IMHO.
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  5. spagthorpe

    spagthorpe Long timer

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    Where is everyone ordering their tires from? I used to get them from swmoto, but didn't see the PRs in sizes for the GS.
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  6. Av3

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    Yes I have heard in another review that the PR2 and PR3 have a tendency to 'fall' into the turn while the PR4 are more neutral in that regard, I personally like the turn in thing. Which version of the PR3 and PR4 are you talking about?
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  7. spagthorpe

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    I only have a few hundred on my PR4 Trails, but I think they are still more tippy than the original PRs were. The original PRs were very neutral feeling. These do have a tendency to drop into corners a little, it's not bad. Though I would prefer that I could still get the originals, I'm happy with the 4 Trails. They mounted pretty easily as well.
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  8. Bill-66

    Bill-66 Hencho in Kansas

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    Rocky Mtn ATV/MC...free shipping....
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  9. Av3

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    I have put the PR4 trails on my 1150GS last friday and have since rode about 600 km with them, sadly it was mostly highway. I replaced ten year old metzeler tourances and these are my only point of reference for this bike. I encountered a lot of wet road (though not super wet) and the grip felt sublime in those conditions.

    They felt fairly neutral to me in the corners but I did notice a small tendency to tip in very tight corners, I'm assuming this is more of a bike thing than tires though. Grip on dry is what you would expect from a good on-road tire. First time I did a nice turn with these tires I noticed they were keeping the bike on the turn line very steady and solid without any movements.

    So, for me, good tires. Now lets see how they wear.
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  10. (none)

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    Wow, i bet almost anything would feel better than a 10yo set of MC tires
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  11. spagthorpe

    spagthorpe Long timer

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    Nice to know for the future, didn't think of them. The price on Amazon was about the same, and I get free shipping with Prime.
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  12. Beemer Rob

    Beemer Rob Stuck in Ohio

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    9000 miles and the rear has 1 mm to the wear bar and the front will go another 9000 miles

    Stick great wet or dry

    The front's a little noisier than the PR3's

    I'll buy them again
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  13. WindSailor

    WindSailor Been here awhile

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    That's good to hear... Most likely to be my next set of tires.

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  14. Draganee Racing

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    I have the No Mar Cycle Hill changer with bumper hitch mount ( http://www.nomartirechanger.com/Cycle_Hill_Tire_Changer_p/tc-cycle hill standard.htm ) and it takes me 15 minutes per tire to dismount and mount the PR4s on the GSA Behr rims... no special tools from what is included with the No MAr... just use lots oh lube..
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  15. FozMaster

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    Competition Accessories has them, too. I just ordered a rear PR4.

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  16. spagthorpe

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    Two Motion Pro tire spoons and dish soap/water for lube. It was actually way harder to get the old Tourances off than the PR4s on. Once I had the old tire off, the PRs were on in at most a minute per tire. I can see that a stand would make it easier, but I just did it on an old rug.
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  17. rider2371

    rider2371 Novice Rider

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    Thanks for the feedback!

    That's very good mileage. They're next on my list to try.
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  18. longslowdistance

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    Bummer. Riding Anakee 3s now and the modest gravel road gain is dwarfed by the pavement loss compared to PR 2 s and 3s.
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  19. RobDek

    RobDek Been here awhile

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    I had a set of Michelin PR4 Trail tires installed today on my 2014 V-Strom 1000. Look forward to feeling them out. The OEM Battlewing rear tire was squaring badly at 4,000km.

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  20. jadoca

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    I think you will like them...... a lot!
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