Michelin Pilot Road 4 Trail Tires

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by RoadRdr, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Mike M

    Mike M Long-timer

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    Reviving this thread.

    I've been running my 2014 GSAW with Anakee 3's and been pretty happy with their overall performance but they are a single compound and even though I ride very aggressively and a high percentage of twisty canyons, I'm still getting a flat spot on the rear at 4-5000 miles.

    Thinking I might try the PR4 Trails or GT's for the only 10% off road I do on graded dirt and gravel. The only reason I'm thinking of the GT's is because of the harder (and more narrow) center compound on the rear.

    My question...I've run dual compounds on other sport touring bikes and they can develop an edge between the hard center and softer sides that hurts handling. Is this an issue with the PR4's?
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  2. Izzy3

    Izzy3 Freak of Unnature

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    Nope. My PR4 Trails are flatspotting quite nicely after 7K. Great tire, sticks well.

    A bike at work has the dual compound PR4 GT and is wearing the shoulders off the tire driving the twisties. Interesting look as it is opposite my flatspot look.
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  3. bobbybob

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    My experience so far wth PR4's is they wear very evenly, keeping a rounded profile right until the end while handling well until the end also. They stick like glue and wet pavement traction is great. BUT--I can only get about 3500 miles off a rear. But I enjoy ALL of those 3500.

    I got 3700 miles off a rear Anakee but the handling started getting poor around 2700 miles, and was downright squirelly by 3700.
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  4. Mike M

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    I appreciate the info. Do you have the GT's or the Trails?
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  5. jadoca

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    I believe the Trails were designed for the adventure style bike specifically. I run them and they are great.
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  6. mexell

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    My PR4 Trail rear is down to about 1mm above the wear bar after one season with ~9k km. As I have no further travel planned this year, I'll replace it either towards the end of riding season in the Alps (Mid-end of October) or first thing after the snow melt. The front is good for at least another half season. I initially expected a bit more endurance, however in the end I had a lot of fun on those tires. I'll probably try the normal PR4 with the overall harder compound for my next rear.
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  7. Mike M

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    As mentioned on the post above, I'm hearing some are using the GT version on their GS's with it's different dual compound design. However, I may just go with the Trails since it has a bit more tread bite for the little graded dirt/gravel I run once and awhile.
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  8. JetSpeed

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    The PR4 Trails have no more tread bite then the regular or GT PR4's, they are all 100% street tires, the term "Trail" is used to signify a different compound optimized for heavy Dual Sport (Trail) Bikes.
    It has been my experience though that the PR4 Trail's do about the same on dirt roads as the Anakee 3's, which is probably about as well as most any street oriented tire.
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  9. Mike M

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    Thanks again for that. Is anyone finding the GT's are better than the Trails on GS's with the different compound design?
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  10. jadoca

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  11. Lurch87

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    There were reports that the PR3 performed better in the wet than the PR4s. I personally didn't find here to be much difference between the two.

    Also there is a slight compound difference between the PR4 and the PR4 Trails as well as more reinforcement to the side wall. People on here were reporting flex/deformation in the side wall when riding hard in the twisties on the standard PR4/3.
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  12. sarhog

    sarhog Ride far...

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    Mileage wise, the GT is better than the Trail in my experience.

    I'm on my 5th rear tire on my 2014 R1200GS.
    The first was an Anakee III, which lasted 9300 miles.
    The second was also an Anakee III, which lasted 7700 miles, but still had tread left.
    The third was a PR4 Trail, which lasted 8400 miles.
    The fourth was a PR4 GT, which lasted 9700 miles. This tire still had tread and would have most certainly made it past 10,000 miles.

    My fifth (and current) rear tire is another PR4 GT.

    If anyone's curious, I got 17,000 miles out of my front Anakee III, and 18,000 out of a front PR4 trail.
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  13. JetSpeed

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    You are getting some good mileage out of your tires.
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  14. Mike M

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    Rider miles on a tire that people report always blows my mind. No matter what, with my riding style and terrain, once I'm at 6k miles my tires are at the point I feel they need to be changed. Yeah, I could ride them for another 1-2000 miles but why? I'm not one to ride on lumpy tires no matter if they're showing some reasonable tread left.

    That's just me though.
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  15. Deano747

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    If you liked the Anakees ( which I hated so much I changed them with 2300Kms on them), then you will be amazed by the PR4's.

    Around 10,000 Kms on a set of Tourance Next's, and now about 5,000 Kms on the PR4's. They are probably half worn, hard to say as they still look great. No squaring off, no cupping, and excellent on the wet. We are just coming out of a wet winter down here.

    You do realise that the GT version won't fit the front, and frankly, not sure I would want a stiffer carcas that is designed for heavy tourers. I also always change mine as a set as I believe the front tyre sets the rear up, and I don't want different tyre properties front and rear. I realise that is not quite as good for the planet, but better for my health.

    I confess to riding mine more like a sports bike, no freeways, no highways, but also very little dirt :)
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  16. Mike M

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    I also ride my GSAW like a sportbike----some straights, a little dirt, not extreme. Will be going with PR4 Trail. Thanks for all the input!!
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  17. Bob Herr

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    I put a new pilot road 4( not a trail) on my 2011 R1200RT rear and rode it 9000 miles to Alaska and back in August. It is almost down to the wear indicators. Considering the amount of high speed interstate riding and the rough surface Canadian roads and the load I had I am well pleased with it. My 2 buddies had to replace the Tourances rear tires on their GS Adventures at about 7000 miles.
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  18. bobbybob

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    Trails.
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  19. RoadRdr

    RoadRdr Mostly Pavement

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    I have my second set of PR4Ts in the garage waiting to mount when needed. I'm around 8,000 miles. The front has plenty left on it the rear is still okay, certainly not at the wear bars. But I like the PR4Ts for my kind of riding so I am staying with them for the next round.

    I'm still debating whether to mount them myself. I change a lot of small motorcycle tires without much drama. The last time around the GSA wheels were a challenge. I'd kind of hate to walk away in defeat so I'll probably do the change myself.
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  20. Ua the Destroyer

    Ua the Destroyer Been here awhile

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    Here are mine after 4500 miles. A bit of life left. The most rock solid tires on the street I've ridden wet or dry. Still lots of tread in the centers. The softer compound edges seem to be wearing out faster than the center. No weird transitions between compounds, and they've stayed nice and round, but I don't do a lot of slabbing, and haven't hauled much gear on the Gs while these tires have been installed. Trail version up front and regular pr4 on the rear. Best street tire I've had on the Gs. Put the big blocks on for awhile, but once winter starts to kick in I'll switch back to these.
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