Michelin Pilot Road 4 Trail Tires

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by RoadRdr, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. sarhog

    sarhog Ride far...

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    Are you sure it's a regular PR4 on the rear? What size is it? Only the PR4 GT and the PR4 Trail come in GSW sizes.
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  2. BMWBOB51

    BMWBOB51 Going slower, but bench race faster :)

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    PR4 Trail front and PR4 GT rear on my 14 GS works best. I still only get about 4000 miles out of the rear, but the front seems to never wear out!
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  3. Ua the Destroyer

    Ua the Destroyer Been here awhile

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    Yup. I'm sure. I have an 1150. Rear size 150/70-17
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  4. onewheelwunder

    onewheelwunder are we there yet?

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    I started running PR2 and 3's on my old GS's in the 150 size once they came out. They were my sport bike tire of choice for Arkansas runs. I put 170 PR4 trails on my LC 1200 the minute I got it. I was looking for the same confidence while heeled over on the edge of the tires. I am now sad to report I have officially written off the PR4 trail 170 rear. This comes from safety and confidence reasons that I have noted over the past 15000 miles. I've had a crash and way too many unpredictable slides since installing my 3rd rear on two bikes (totalled the 2014 last year). I feel it has more to do with the profile shape and small size compared to a 170 conti trail attack 2, leaving me with too little PR4 rubber on the side of the tire in road contact. Maybe the GT rear is different , but I'm done with them. I do however like the fronts. I am mounting the ZR rated conti Trail Attack 2s for my Arkansas trip next weekend. I hope they are better than the PR4s.

    If any has tried other Street Oriented tires and is happy. Please let me know. I can find 170 rears in stickier tires, but no matching fronts...

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  5. JetSpeed

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    So you low sides your bike thru the twisties with PR4 trails mounted?
    Pictures?
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  6. Izzy3

    Izzy3 Freak of Unnature

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    My first set of PR4 Trails have been great. I'll need a rear soon, but they've been 8,200 miles of sticky bliss. The front is wearing nice and even too. No cupping, no complaints.
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  7. onewheelwunder

    onewheelwunder are we there yet?

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    No easily locatable pics of the bike, but I do know my girlfriend has pics of them sewing up my elbow after my transit suit let loose. The crash was my fault. Not the tires, but I do not like them one bit. Anakee 3's are better IMHO

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  8. Gezerbike

    Gezerbike Hey Rocky...........

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    I'm coming off a set of Anakee 3's that lasted 10,000 + miles that I can't say anything negative about. With a now behind me 1,5000 mile trip up to the Gunflint Trail and back, to be followed by a run down to Harrison for the RA and then over to Potosi for the Falling Leaf, I thought I give the PR's a try. I've now got 2,000 miles on these with no drama...they seem to handle well, are really quiet and bring a new dimension to the 1200 GS. I look forward to running the fabulous roads around Potosi on 'em, and will report back if there is anything noticeable to report.
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  9. kevind02

    kevind02 Been here awhile

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    What psi do you guys run your tires getting 10k miles? Ive been running what the book says 42 and 36. My rear was toast at 6K miles.
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  10. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    38F and 40R and am at 4200 miles and just now starting to square off. I typically get 10-12K for a set of tires.
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  11. kevind02

    kevind02 Been here awhile

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    I replaced the rear last week with another Anakee3. I hope the front last another 6K miles.
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  12. Mike M

    Mike M Here Awhile...

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    I'm going to be putting PR4's on my 2014 GSAW and am going back and forth in my mind about whether to pair a GT or Trail in the rear with the Trail front tire.

    I do about 50% mountain twisty riding mixed with straights and a little highway riding---I'm in a warm year-round climate so heat is part of the equation. I've really liked the Anakee 3's I've been running but my beef is I develop a flat spot on the rear---even with all the twisty mountain rides. The Anakee 3's are a single compound so my hope is the PR4's with it's dual compound will provide the sticky traction on the sides and a harder center so there's less squaring.

    Below is the compound makeup of the GT and the Trail. Given my riding, any input on this?

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  13. aGremlin

    aGremlin Been here awhile

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    I've run out a set of PR3T, a PR4T rear but still using a PR4T front and PR4 rear (110 and 150 tyres) so I can't yet offer an opinion on all the options.

    I believe we got cheated with the PR4T as the compound mix (soft and medium) is exactly the same as the PR3T, while the regular PR4 was changed. I'm trying a regular PR4 rear now to see if I can get better mileage from the medium/hard mix over the soft/medium of the PR4T without trading off any edge grip. So far, happy with edge grip, and could almost swear the regular PR4 is slightly rounder than the PR4T, as I was onto the sidewall a little on the PR4T but not on the PR4 (and I've actually increased my lean angle according to the front tyre) so now I just have to ride, finish off the tyres and assess mileage.

    Mike M: I've used a set of A3 and had noticeable squaring through the middle at end of life, but I did get more life (mileage for rears) from A3 (16k km) than PR3T (12.3k) and PR4T (10.4k). No commuting, but not all twisty riding, and some travelling distance with full luggage etc.

    In your position, I'd probably go for a GT, because of the detail I've listed above on my own experiences. Obviously a GT isn't available in 150, so I go for regular.
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  14. RoadRdr

    RoadRdr Mostly Pavement

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    At 8,300 miles I swapped out both front and rear PR4Ts with another set of PR4Ts. The rear was fairly squared off and had some tread life left in it but I'm hoping to get another 4 day trip in before the weather changes too much and wouldn't take a trip on it. The front has plenty of tread left but I really like the feel of new tires and always change them in sets.

    I posted my difficulty in the last change and was undecided whether to take the wheels and tires to the dealer or have a go at a redo. I decided to do the tire change myself. It wasn't a 15 minute job but I wasn't in a rush. I spent a lot of time on balancing the wheels and then the wheel tire combo to see what the baseline was and also installed some Mojoblocks on my HF tire changer:clap (those are great).

    It went pretty well. I could have used a second person getting the final bead on both front and rear tire. I'm going to add some large zipties to my toolbox to help keep the tire into the center well of the wheel. Fro the install I used a Kauritmoto tool I got on the group buy. For some reason it tended to slip and loose grip on the bead but even solo I managed. Again, a second set of hands would have helped that process.

    Bottom line is I'll do it again myself in about 8K miles.
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  15. OTR/L

    OTR/L Been here awhile

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    Quick question- knowing that the Anakee 3 is a single compound tire...which compound is it???
    Soft or medium??

    TIA


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  16. Gillus

    Gillus High Desert Rat

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    noisy compound
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  17. OTR/L

    OTR/L Been here awhile

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    I actually don't find them very loud.

    I see myself spending the summer mainly riding in the mountains and 100% pavement using the bike for commuting for work across 2-3 counties (Home Healthcare) and want a tire that will last more than 4,000 miles.
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  18. RoadRdr

    RoadRdr Mostly Pavement

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    I'm still satisfied with the PR4-Ts. For my 99% pavement use, they give good grip in wet and dry conditions.
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  19. HpiRally

    HpiRally Believes in Bigfoot

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    Bumping this to the top. seems like I am not the only one trying to decide between the PR4Trail and PR4GT for the rear tire of my 16GSA. Has anyone tried both on the rear and seen a difference in mileage and grip? I am seeing a lot of reviews from 1200cc owners who say the mileage out of them is pretty low.

    Does anyone know what the compound of the anakee 3 tire is? Might be helpful to know.
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  20. Jim-Mer

    Jim-Mer Slowing Down

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    I put a PR4 Trail rear on in Grand Junction CO during a trip, and took them off at 7,419. Replaced that with the PR4GT and 8,452 miles later put another PR4GT on. I only ride street - very occasional gravel road, weigh 225 + 70 lbs of gear (luggage, tank bag, camping stuff), and am sold on the extra life of the GT. For me I can't tell the difference, and I scrub 'em hard in the twisties, even in the rain:-). My buddy weighs about 50 pounds less, and gets a little more mileage out of his tires, along with 20 more miles per tank. I still have the PR4 trail front on it that got installed at the Billings MOA rally - approaching 16K miles and still has some left. I'm sold on the Trail front / PR4 rear combination. YMMV.

    Jim
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