Mid Atlantic Thrillbillies (MAT) | WV – VA – MD – PA

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by Ken Hooligan, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. maloryII

    maloryII ey brah

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    :lol3 Well it's all Google maps in the end, isn't it? Aren't they the main lease on Ball's WorldView 2 & 3 satellites? I think at this point even NOAA is using Google's cartographic backbone... Maybe some folks out there are still using Bing? :patch

    As I explained, I'm using Furkot.com. Can't recommend it enough.

    It does. Try this: https://trips.furkot.com/ts/wKmk91
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  2. ONandOFF

    ONandOFF more off than on

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    No, n/a, and yes. There's a bunch of other databases. Mapquest, Microsoft, Openstreetmaps, ... plenty of others no doubt. Bing is a shell for Microsoft, that still comes up on a lot of business sites to show how to find them.

    Google is well-heeled currently, and worked diligently to get where they are, so it makes sense they're leading the pack.
    If you're happy with it, that's what matters. Looks like it may be helpful in laying out multi-day trips. Unfortunately, the map navigation is quite clunky compared to Google Maps' more highly refined direct interface. It's frustrating to try to work with cruder interfaces now.

    Thanks, I can see it now.
    Looks good coming through where I'm familiar. If you would like to enjoy a tad more dirt time, try This Section. Looks like a great ride overall. It'll be pretty if the weather cooperates. You might consider hitting the Purple Fiddle in Thomas. And at the end you might want to follow the Capocon (29/9) instead of 522 way down at 127.
  3. BlakKrauStudios

    BlakKrauStudios I'm cool... right?

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    As someone else mentioned, Sunday looks to be pretty miserable. They're calling for heavy, soaking rains in the Shenandoah area.

    I'm in Waynesboro with a pickup and a ramp if needed, should things not go as planned. Looks like a fun route though. Be sure to post up some pics of the adventure!
  4. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    I'm subscribing to this thread!! I live in Frederick and ride the Watershed and Catoctin areas a lot and make frequent trips to Michaux, Green Ridge, Sleepy Creek, and the George Washington forest. I have a plated TTR-250, DR650, and Buell Ulysses, so I'm up for pretty much any type of riding.

    For anyone interested, the WV DNR just updated a bunch of their wildlife management area maps, to include drivable roads and trails. You need a tagged and registered street legal bike, but a lot of these roads are rather primitive and a lot of fun. Here's the new map for Sleepy Creek:
    https://www.wvdnr.gov/wmamapproj/pdf/pdf300/SleepyCreekFinal11x17_300dpi.pdf
  5. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    Thanks for posting the new map, we should get out there one of these Sundays since gates are open this time of year and no hunting on Sunday...
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  6. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    The awesome thing about Sleepy Creek is that most of the gates are open YEAR ROUND! Those roads are used for access to some of the primitive camp sites, so they're almost always open.

    Here's a link to the WV DNR site where you can download (for FREE) a bunch of other maps. It looks like they're updated a bunch of them recently.
    https://www.wvdnr.gov/wmamapproj/
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  7. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    I've done a small amount of exploring in Sleepy Creek but every time I've been, it's been quite muddy.
  8. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    The roads that are near the lake tend to be muddy year round, and can be hard to get through if it's recently rained.

    Try the roads/trails that are south of Hampshire Grade Road. They tend to be more rocky and less muddy.
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  9. maloryII

    maloryII ey brah

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    Yeah chance of rain has become much more likely... Now 60% for Saturday. I might need to postpone. :( No point in intentionally heading into a downpour if I can avoid it...
  10. Iron Cross Junction

    Iron Cross Junction Been here awhile

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    I live just off the SW corner of that Sleepy Creek map. Really appreciate your posting it. Will print it and insert in tankbag window.

    Also appreciate the Sunday reminder, LT. I think hunting is fine, but as I don't do it, I tend to forget that lots of others do. I would not look pretty over the hood of a pick-up :lol2, tho I might set a record at the weigh-in. :D

    Love the two choices, too: rocky or muddy. :lol3

    I will have to postpone going there and, on a happier note, miss the coming rain. I am riding to Atlanta tomorrow a.m., taking two unrushed back-road days. The freeze warning tonight is bringing out the wuss in me, so I have to look for my electrics earlier than I intended. :augie

    Best,

    Bill
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  11. jasykes2

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    Hello all!

    New to adventure riding as well as this thread. I appreciate the sleepy creek map. It’s right in my back yard! I can’t wait to drop my beast in a rut out there again.

    Hope to see y’all out there.

    Jim
  12. Iron Cross Junction

    Iron Cross Junction Been here awhile

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    Thanks again for the Sleepy Creek map. Used it yesterday to play a bit in the area. Need to go back when less burdened with home tasks. Hate to be rushed on a ride. Nothing good comes from that.

    Anyway, still had fun.

    Those familiar with "downtown" Shanghai know it isn't Times Square or the Downtown Connector in Atlanta. Still, somehow just after 3 p.m. yesterday, at least two cars tried to mate with predictable results.

    As I went north on SR 45 and neared the place, a car flashed its lights in that "Be Careful!" way. Hmmmmm. Have never seen a W.V. LEO on that road, but suppose they do now and then.

    Anyway, soon saw it wasn't radar, etc., but a crash. Happily, was turning left to go up Hampshire Grade Road, as the intersection and roadway after that awash with oil, coolant. and who knows what else. Might even take a HAZMAT wash to get it all off. It had just happened, and some of the players were out of the cars looking dazed and holding kids. There were enough able-bodied folks who were either "participants" or witnesses already helping direct traffic, etc., that I wouldn't have brought anything to the fight so I went on.

    Enjoyed my little romp up that way and will go back when I can. Only pix I managed are of my Stornello down by the creek on our place that I took after I got home. :augie

    Heading to Atlanta tomorrow on my Norge. Taking two days; staying one; coming back on Thursday and Friday. Kathi thinks I am crazy. She's right, of course. :feelgood

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  13. maloryII

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    I avoided the rain and tooled around the Eastern Shore of MD. It was clear but really windy and the roads & scenery left much to be desired, unfortunately. I don't think I'll be going back out there.

    Highlight was the Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge. Marsh as far as the eye could see. Very few people. Had these bizarre looking black reeds. Quite beautiful.

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    That's a handsome bike


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    windblown101 Long timer

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    Nice pics. I really enjoy the eastern shore and parts of the southern Md area, it's not a top spot for big ADV bikes. Always feel a bit out of place on one in that neck of the woods.
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    06ltd Been here awhile

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    The Shore has it's own kind of beauty ... I have an office in Salisbury and will occasionally ride down from Baltimore.

    But you don't need an ADV bike over there, you need a throttle lock or cruise control.
  17. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    I also rode Sleepy Creek this weekend. I've been trying to figure out how to get from Hampshire Grade Road through to the Brush Creek Access Gate on the bike. The map clearly shows a road connecting the two, and even shows a parking lot about half way through. I can't seem to find the portion of the road circled in green in the attached map.

    If you take the Brush Creek Trail south from the Hampshire Grade Road gate, you'll come to a fork about 2 miles after the Pee Wee Point trail intersection. Left will be single track, marked by a white blaze. Straight will continue to be double track for a while, marked by blue blaze. The blue blaze road deteriorates into a very rocky single track and eventually I lose the trail. The blazes stop, and it just turns into woods. At this point my GPS says that I'm 1 mile (as the crow flies) from the Brush Creek south gate, but I'm up on a ridge with cliff like rocky descents on all sides. The white trail is single track, and looks like it hasn't been used in a while. There are trees down across the trail, tons of rocks, and it's very overgrown. I made it pretty far on the bike, but ended up parking the bike and walking the remainder of the white trail. It does end up putting you out at a camp site near the southern Brush Creek Access gate. There's no way you'd get any vehicle other than a 250cc dirt bike though it though. It's tough.

    I then left the park and rode pavement around to the southern Brush Creek gate. About 2 miles in, a huge drainage ditch (~10' deep and 15' wide) has been dug across the road. Is this temporary, or did they intend to close the road? Is this what would have connected through?

    SleepyCreekFinal11x17_300dpi.jpg

    My question is: Does anyone know how to access the portion of the road circled in green? Is it the white trail? Is it the blue trail, and I somehow missed where it goes? Is there a third option I didn't even see? I assume that the red road line continues under the "little brush creek" label on the map, but that assumption could be wrong, and the two trails/roads might not connect. It sure would be sweet if they did though!


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  18. ONandOFF

    ONandOFF more off than on

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    Awesome exploratory!

    Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to connect them.

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  19. Buckee

    Buckee Ah, Grasshopper...

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    A body would have to be old as the hills to "get" that reference.




    :eek7 Hey, wait a minute...
  20. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    I accept. I'm going to call the ranger office and ask them how the roads connect, if anyone knows they should. I really don't think they intend for motor vehicles to be on the white trail, it's pretty tough, but if they do that's the answer. They are pretty good about posting the "foot traffic only" and "no vehicles" signs, and the white trail had neither. It's a branch off of a road/trail that's clearly marked for vehicle use. I could ride the white trail on the TTR-250, but I'd have to be fresh and have some time to burn. Exploring is half the fun!
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