Mid Atlantic Thrillbillies (MAT) | WV – VA – MD – PA

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by Ken Hooligan, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. ONandOFF

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    Cool! If that were nearby me, I'd be volunteering to help.

    Or chaperone :D
  2. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    I've rode that section, it does go through (or did in June). If I remember correctly, from Hampshire Grade, if you take a right at the 2nd junction (past the pee wee junction) it takes you on the Tuscarora trail which although double track, I believe is a hiking trail. I accidentally went a ways down that trail until I came across a large downed tree. When I went back to the junction and went left it took me down to the Brush Creek area. Back in June it seemed they were doing some work or grading between the Brush Creek gate and the first large clearing which I think is marked as a Parking Lot.
  3. Sidecar Jockey

    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info! I was also there in June, and saw the downed tree on the Tuscarora/straight/blue trail. That tree is now cleared, but the trail deteriorates to the point where I couldn't even see it or follow it about a mile after where the tree was.

    If you're saying that the left trail connects through, that's what is now the white blaze trail. It zig zagged through the woods and was tight single track in some areas. Does that sound like what you experienced? If not, maybe I somehow got off onto a hiking trail...
  4. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    The trail to the left connects through, I can't recall if it was blazed. I recall it was tight at times and very muddy at times. I can PM a gpx file from that day if you'd like.

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    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    That would be awesome, please PM me the GPX file! Thanks. I'll overlay it on the file from when I was exploring to see if we went the same way, or if you found a different way through.
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    I was too young to appreciate Mission Impossible it's day. there was a TV station out of Baltimore playing reruns of Mission Impossible last fall. I couldn't get enough of it!
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    Sidecar Jockey Been here awhile

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    Thanks for posting up the GPX file!

    Where you found the fork in the road looks to me like where the Pee Wee Point trail branches off to the left. Are you sure the left you took was after Pee Wee point?

    The blue and white trail fork that I found is ~1.25 miles farther south than the fork you found. If you went right at your fork, you'll eventually come to the white / blue split. Its ~100 yards before where the tree was down across the trail that you mentioned seeing. The left (white) fork is hard to see, its a pretty skinny and overgrown trail.

    I'll definitely have to head back out and ride your route. Thanks again for the GPX file!!
  8. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    I think it's a connector trail, maybe called the high rock trail? I'd imagine it's a pretty gnarly little hiking trail. I attached a shot of the gpx with a different base layer that shows the connector trail.

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  9. windblown101

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    Just FYI - I would be surprised if any part of the Tuskarora Trail is legally open to motorized vehicles. It's an alternate route for the Appalachian Trail. There is a section of it near me along the WV/VA boarder that is not gated but the punishment for being on it with a motorcycle can be really steep from what I hear.

    In general trails or roads without a FS number on public lands are verboten for any sort of motorized traffic. Sucks, but it is a hiking trail. The section near me would make an awesome bit of single track though. :(
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  10. Ken Hooligan

    Ken Hooligan Getcha' Pull

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    I agree, I'm pretty sure Tuscarora and that connector are both hiking trails only, I only ended up on Tuscarora once by accident looking for the jeep trail that goes down to Brush Creek. It was double track so I assumed it was OK until I looked at my phone and realized I was on the wrong trail...
  11. Ken Hooligan

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    Ride this Sunday 11/19 up in Michaux. 10am Meeting at trail head parking lot at:

    13776 PA 16
    Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17214

    We plan to ride Michaux State Forest and possibly Frederick Water Shed if time permits. The meeting spot is a trail head parking lot so people can ride or trailer in. Come ride before it gets any colder. :vardy
  12. maloryII

    maloryII ey brah

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    Big bike friendly?

    Also meetup at what time?
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    It is big bike friendly, Michaux is pretty tame. We plan to meet at 10.
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    sweet, I'll be there
  15. rottenpossum

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    Figured this is a good place to ask. I'm heading from Lynchburg VA to Athens WV next week and will be taking the bike. Other than using kurviger to get route suggestions, any spots I should hit? I'm going to be on my triumph explorer so no single track for me


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  17. ONandOFF

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    Google maps is al an excellent resource. It's pretty straightforward to choose the narrowest, squiggliest route heading in a general direction, and avoiding busy areas. The terrain layer allows picking the hilliest. It's harder to discern gravel from pavement but satellite view can help with that.

    Here's an idea: 644-43-615-611-311-600-635-460-648-wv9/05-9... follow that on the map and see what you think.
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  18. rottenpossum

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    I'm not shy about gravel or even dirt roads. I'll even do water crossings with a ride buddy just cause the bike is damn heavy and it's nice to have help to pick it up.

    I was more asking if there are any must ride stuff in between start and end that you all know about. Otherwise I can do the map "that looks real squiggly" thing. That's why I really like kurviger. It has an auto built-in extra curvy option that accounts for elevation as extra incentive.

    Here's what I've got so far:
    644-43-625-628-636-638-635-655-666-606-615-611-617-(here I'm planning to take the abandoned part of 617 that connects to forest service 604. If that doesn't work I can keep going up 617 to FS176 and get back on track)-potts mountain road-mill branch road-VA18-311-600(Becomes WV cr17)-cr15-cr29-219-122-seminole road-cr 3/3-cr14/3-Buck road (into bellepoint)- WV 3- 20

    Any of that too sketchy or something I'm missing out on? I've got all day Wednesday to make the trip. I'm going to be only carrying water in a camelback and a few tools. I'm sending my luggage with my wife


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    Give it a shot. That's what riding is all about. Couple things I'd suggest besides water and tools, like snacks. You never know when you might get hungry in the middle of nowhere possibly heaven forbid even hung up or stranded somewhere. Better prepare than lament. Also either a GPS unit that you pre check to make sure it has the roads intended in the database or a smartphone with maps downloaded so you don't have to rely on cell service for map access.

    I haven't been on any Forest Service Roads in that area but I see some that look potentially interesting. That's neat that you're considering those. If you wanted to add some more in the mix you could hit 181-179 (from 615-611).

    12 and 3 look nice along the river. Not that the more back roads ever disappoint.

    Looks like no place to cross the river between 460 and bellepoint.

    Have fun. Let us know how it goes. Maybe snap a pic or two.
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  20. rottenpossum

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    Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I was deliberately trying to avoid 460 because it's boring and more prone to cold fingers at those speeds for that duration. Looked like I had to go all the way north to bellepoint for the first chance at crossing.


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