Might be the best $400 I have spent on my GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by pavement pounder, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. davidmc

    davidmc Been here awhile

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    Thanks Charlie B for the Hyperpro vs. Scotts summary!

    I ended up getting the Hyperpro and selling my Scotts. The deciding factor was risers, you can't really mount a Scott's with handlebar risers and definitely not with the Rox Risers which I ever so desperately needed.

    The Hyperpro went on easily and as others have said, you have to move it around in the clamps a bit to make sure it is not binding when at full steering lock. I am riding with it at 10 clicks, my damper is the active one and it has 24 clicks total, not 20 as many have said. It's strange, I increased the preload up to 12 clicks and it was way too stiff. A little bit makes a big difference as you increase the preload in the mid-range.

    No one needs to convince me of the benefits of a steering damper and it worked as expected on my Xmas ride from San Francisco down to LA and back. It does make the bike feel as if it is on rails. I had very strong cross winds on the way back and the damper made a big difference.

    Oh and Klaus at EPM is running a special in the BMW MOA magazine right now....10% off retail on the damper. If you are considering buying one now may be a good time! :deal
  2. Rippin'AV

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    has there been any word on the 1150 model from Hyperco?

    this is something Id love to get. i ride over so many trails with rocks and deep sand...this seems to be a great upgrade.

    so where's the love for the 1150?
  3. dialdn

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    Having never used a steering dampener, is there a big improvement in the twisties or for a track day session? I am tempted just based on the gravel and wind benefits.

    D
  4. bush pilot

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    Yea me neither. In over 50k miles of rough roads, uneven pavement, windy conditions, and passing trucks has the 1100GS felt anything less than rock steady.
    Twitchy simply isn't in this bike's vocabulary.

    I'll be leaving the money in the bank for a transmission upgrade some day when it's starts to skip.
  5. Martincito

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    Do you remember what setting (or how many clicks) you use on the Trans-Lab?
  6. davidmc

    davidmc Been here awhile

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    Ok, if you have doubts about the effectiveness of a steering damper try this little experiment:

    1. Find your favorite two lane twisty road and on a nice high speed sweeper place one 2x4 in the road, say 2 or 3 feet long.

    2. Ride a bike without a steering damper and hit the 2x4 at 60+ MPH, preferably leaned over a bit. Do your best to stay loose and calm as the handlebars are nearly ripped out of your hands.

    3. Ride the same bike with a steering damper over the same 2x4 at the same speed and lean as in #2. Notice how the handlebars stay relatively calm. Now ask yourself if the steering damper makes a difference.

    Think this is an unrealistic experiment? Well this happened to me on the freeway on one of my bikes without a damper and I came very close to crashing in heavy commute traffic after hitting said 2x4 and having the handlebars yanked from my hands. I don't know how I managed to control the bike, but I was lucky the pavement was dry. It scared me to death. I too never thought I needed a steering damper until after that incident....

    Headshake is not why I bought my damper, it is the ability to hit an object in the road and live to tell about it. If you have ever had a big tank slapper from hitting something you will know what I mean. I consider a steering damper a safety device, just like ABS. I'll never have a bike without one again.
  7. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

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    Gotta say; Just today fitted a Hyperpro RSC to my well abused/looked after '04 1200. Went for a good flog around some local twisty tar/dirt roads and tracks....We are in love again!
    I could never have imagined the improvement in what already is an incredibly stable motorcycle. I was able to seriously attack turns, both tar & dirt, under brakes, like I couldn't remember. Fookn' amazin!!
    To the naysayers; TRY IT. (To those who have and say no diff; get a car...)

    Falling in love again......:D
  8. slipknot

    slipknot Been here awhile

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    I recalled reading about this feature of the Scotts damper but their site explains it better, and I can reduce my typing.

    From their website:

    Why is our Stabilizer so much better than others?
    One of our dampers most important features is that the Scotts Stabilizer only dampens as the handlebar turns away from center. The handlebar "free-valves" back to dead straight. That makes the bike want to go straight, all by itself. This is a huge advantage over other stabilizers. It also boasts a damping control this is adjustable on the fly. It only takes two seconds of one handed riding to change the damping, similar to the time it would take to pull the string on your roll-off lens. Even more importantly, the Scotts stabilizer has a "high-speed" damping adjustment, similar to the high speed adjustment in your shock. Since the stabilizer is literally a little shock absorber controlling the unwanted left to right motion of your bars, it only makes sense that you would want to have a circuit that absorbs the impacts that exceed the normal range of hits, similar to the high speed valving your shock. Most impacts and head-shake at the front wheel are high speed" movements, where on the other hand, turning is generally a low speed movement. If you don't like the feeling the stabilizer provides in turns or while flying a SX jump, you can adjust it out and still retain it’s ability to absorb high speed impacts. NO OTHER STABILIZER HAS THIS FEATURE. Why? Because it’s expensive to build and we own the patent on this concept. Not only is the damping rate and high speed circuit adjustable, but the arc of movement over which it operates is also adjustable, we call those sweep controls. So in summary, the Scotts Stabilizer has 3 fully adjustable circuits all of which are critical to any stabilizers ability to function correctly.
  9. Sir Dave

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    I have an 08 GSA1200. Recently installed the Touratech steering stop. Does anyone know if the steering stop will interfer with the HyperPro install?
    Where is the hyperpro installed....skill level??
    Also, any suggestions for the best HyperPro price?
    Thanks for any input.
    dave
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    :lol3 Well said :rofl
  12. Ray R

    Ray R Been here awhile

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    The "best $400 I have spent" is now more like $500 when you include shipping.
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    Still worth it.
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    As I read the thread I was begining to think I was not pushing my bike enough... Even though I am usually going the quickest and usually riding two up and more often that not I am over packed. This being said the bike is rock steady and compared to anything I have riden in the past. It is by far the most predictable bike I have ever riden. Most of my riding is on back roads and a little gravel and dirt. The bike is equiped with ESA and conti trail attacks. :*sip*

    In my opinion a stearing damper on a GS is kinda like tits on a bull... :lol3

    However to each his own... If others believe it makes their bike better... I also believe it makes their bike better...

    Like a placebo... :D


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  15. CollinsB

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    I put on the Hyperpro stabilizer on over the weekend... Money well spent!
    The bike handles sooo much better and stable at high speeds.

    Less than 15 min to install, didn't require the dremel tool to make it fit and it's basically hidden. 9 clicks in totally smoothed out the shake above 85mph.
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  18. tank slappa

    tank slappa Let's just ride!

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    I have a rallye moto going on tomorrow, and I'll let you know how the bike (08 GS) responds as the weekend comes and goes.
  19. 2712

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    Im intrested! I'dlike to get my "wobble" out of the frond end when i land after takeoff when crossing railwaycrossings at 80miles/h:evil
  20. Rapid Dog

    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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    ...the PO of my '05 GS did that very railroad crossing thing and tanked it. End result was me getting a salvaged R12GS that I otherwise could not a afford.
    I never had a satbilzer on a bike outside what came on my 77RS so didn't know what I was missing. Now I have one on both my bikes, dirt and street.
    The subtle benefits will outweigh the cost. In other words, you won't know what your missing until it's gone...:norton