Might get a Ural

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Dracothius, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. AeroEngineer

    AeroEngineer Been here awhile

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    Also a Floridian. Spray your linkages/exposed metal/rust with ACF50. Repeat once a year.

    I also agree with Marty. Go to the ural rally and talk to some owners. Then buy from Gene.
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  2. montrealon3

    montrealon3 n00b

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    I just posted this today before reading yours. If you don't mind the fact that you won't get your money's worth and it can leave you stranded and have to be towed (don't fit in a pickup) by all means get one. They are fun dangerous to drive and don't stop. But I like my machine. Just hate what happened to me in the end and I want URAL to know about it. Good luck your going to need it.
    If there is one spare part you should keep with you it's the alternator coupler. Heat from engine dries out the bearing then no more juice for the battery. Can go any time. For me at 11000km then again at about 35000km.
    This was my post.

    Black Stalin (2009 Patrol-T). In satin black and maroon pin stripe. 74,000km later it's a love hate thing. I got the bike end of season 09. Here is the list of parts and trouble Black Stalin has put me through. A small amount of the work was done by the dealer till he went out of business here in our neck of the woods (Montreal). Then it was up to me dealing with Ural Canada shipping parts or me driving to them. Over 1000km round trip.
    : drive shaft seal. Weeping oil out between universal joint and final drive yoke.
    : complete alternator and coupler system.
    : alternator coupler system
    : 2 rubber donut couplers till finally the 3rd was the new improved version. Still going. Good job Ural.
    : rubber carb flange between carb and intake. Split.
    : 2 starters
    : all 4 wheels. Hub core play. Hubs not designed for SKF bearings.
    : all wheel bearings. Changed along with the wheel change.
    : 2WD shaft and drive assembly on sidecar.
    : battery
    : gas tank. Leaking along seem.
    : found hole in sidecar frame tubing. Water getting in. Small. Filled with silicon. Poor welding.
    : valve adjustment nut came off. Running only one cylinder. Tow to dealer. Bike was new at time. No chances.
    : sidecar windshield vinyl replaced. Stretches around eyelets.
    : major transmission failure. Main bearing and bearing housing. Design flaw. New transmission.
    : at same time they (Ural Canada) said engine and final drive defective. Changed for new. It took 3 months.
    : carbs not balanced when received bike.
    : new engine defective. Compression too low. When hot no power on take off and won't maintain idle and misfires.
    Received bike back after warranty was over. Stored over winter. Come spring found these problems mentioned above after all drive systems where changes.
    Ural Canada and Ural USA. left me hanging. Thanks.
    Sending bike to a very experienced mechanic in my area to fix at my cost.
    It's a love hate thing.
    My next purchase will be a Honda xr650l.
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  3. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    There have been a few other folks in your neck of the woods that have had similar experiences with rigs from that dealer.

    If you get a Ural, choose your dealer carefully.
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  4. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy JerryH,

    Are you another of those experts who have done a lot of research but NEVER owned or ridden a Ural and so don't have ANY real evidence to back up your claim, kinda sounds like it to me. But then again perhaps you don't consider those of us who have ridden these things off road for YEARS to be qualified to accurately access their capability.

    I will point this out, if anyone thinks that a Ural can be flown over jumps as shown in the promotional video of the Russian Troops, and remain in unbroken running condition for any lenght of time their NUTS. The Ural is NOT a dirt bike, it is NOT a moto-crosser, it IS a very capable machine which will navigate over rough terrain and or bad roads that would stop dead in their tracks many other comparable machines and some that are supposed to be much better.
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  5. TebKLR

    TebKLR Been here awhile

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    I watched Ural improve over 10 years, and finally pulled the trigger on a new '10 Gear Up in October of 2010. With one exception (rear main seal leak and contaminated clutch discs....taken care of under warranty), the rig has been rock solid. I don't thrash it as some others do, but I haven't babied it either.

    I do my own maintenance, and am pretty religious about oil/filter changes, and valve adjustments. Simple work that is rewarding. I do find that it eats pusher tires more rapidly than I would prefer......
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  6. montrealon3

    montrealon3 n00b

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    Unfortunately the dealer closed. He was ok. I would probably have no issue today if he was still around. It's Ural Canada the so called Canadian distributor that let me down. They wanted me to bring the bike back to them. When in fact they finally found a local dealer in my area but refused me to go to them. Their reasoning was because they did the work so no one else should touch it. That meant me bringing it to them. Would have to leave it there then go back and pick it up. Over a 2000km drive overall. One way is over 5 hours. Local new dealer. 30 minutes away from my home. After all I've been through (many long stories of breakdowns and getting bike back to be fixed). It ended with a shouting match with Ural Canada. So I called from I what could see as the true distributor in Seattle. They said they would do their best to help. They never called me back. It's been months.
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  7. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Call them again, IMWA's warranty "department" is 1 person doing many jobs.

    Squeaky wheel gets the oil
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  8. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    "I might get a Ural"

    Might, might, might....blah, blah, blah

    I might get a Ferrari one day, too..

    Go get the Ural. NOW.

    Why are you still reading this?!

    GO! Go I say!

    Post lot's of cool pics and stuff.

    Live for me so I might live vicariously through you...at least until February when hopefully the Ural gods (and my bank account) will smile upon me.
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  9. DaFoole

    DaFoole Erudite inchoate...

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    GREAT shot!!! :thumb
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  10. roscoau

    roscoau Been here awhile

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    Don't pick up reverse by mistake when you leave there...
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  11. Ivan Rider

    Ivan Rider Been here awhile

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    Before Ural put a weight limit on the new bike I had my Retro loaded down with Wife and camping gear and rode it over the Truck Scales in Oregon. It registered 1800 lbs. That's 1000 lbs or 1/2 more then the weight of the empty rig. So I wouldn't worry about your 275 lbs.
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  12. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    I sold Urals back in the lates 90's here in Seattle and we could not give them away!!.I could have bought them for pennies on the dollar.Now mind you they were NOT like they are now,we had one come in,opened the crate and tore down the top like we always did.It was missing a piston!!,not just a ring or two but a whole piston !!!.


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  13. The Rat

    The Rat trust me!

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    I've had an M72 (restored, too damn slow, but cool!) and a '98 650 Ural. The brakes were borderline unsafe fully loaded, but after sorting out the bike, it was rock solid. Like a fool, I sold it. One day I found an old YouTube video I had posted. You see, my son is 95% blind and a complete gear-head. At VIR one year he drove me around in the sidecar. Check out that smile! (it was a spur of the moment thing, yeah we're ATGATT Nazis, so FYYFF, sometimes life just happens!)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnq8hzdQgxM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    After I watched the video, remembered how much he loved riding, I took him to Frontline Eurosports in Salem Va (great dealer) yesterday and picked up a 2012 Patrol. I'll take him offroading and camping this summer. Life is too short to waste time "thinking about it"!
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  14. MagyarMan

    MagyarMan Been here awhile

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    Rat,

    You can see happy written all over his face! Good move on the new Ural!:clap
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  15. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    That my friend is what life is all about !!
    Good for you and your son..


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  16. dbigkahunna

    dbigkahunna Whopeee

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    I was one of the "Might" :Been Looking" "Checking them Out" people. I have a DS KLR 650 set up for some serious off the highway travel. I knew knothing about hacks or riding them. It was just something I wanted to do. I had a health scare early this year and decided what did I have to loose. I am not a professional wrench by any means but kept my old Harleys running when I was experiencing my misspent youth.
    I pulled the pin on a 2012 GU in June of this year. I just turned 5K on my rig. I love it. I have ridden my KLR twice since I got the GU. I get to take my granddaughter with me on my jaunts and we learned flying the chair together. The maintenence necessary is not hard and anything needed to be done can be found on the internet. And the skill set you learn on riding this rig is fun. One day you are going down the road and you flash that Hey, I am not thinking about riding the rig, but just enjoying the ride.
    Are they perfect? Of course not. But the people I have met so far either in person or on the SS forum have been great. I remember the old HD days when the bikes had a soul and a personality not a marketing niche. Urals have a soul.
    If you want a ride it and forget it, then DONT get a Ural.
    If you do not like strangers coming up to you to talk to you, then DONT get a Ural.
    If you want to go fast and do your riding with large groups of simillarly clothed riders with manufacturer logos on everything , then DONT get a Ural.
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  17. Boondox

    Boondox Travels With Barley

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    Do any sidecarists do this? Every one I know is an individualist no matter what rig they drive.
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  18. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    The only time I ride with any other sudecars is at the CSR..
    The main reason is that there just aren't many of us around,in fact I only know of 1 other in my area ( windmill ) !!.


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  19. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Amen, brother... Never listen to the "I've done lots of research, but have zero experience" guys, especially when there are so many experienced opinions here, on SS and Russian Iron to name a few.

    I bought my 07 with 21654 Km on it. It had not been babied, but had been maintained as per the manual. It runs like a clock, will go places I'm not willing to ride it to and everyone that has ridden on it has grinned ear to ear....including me.

    My BMW has sat in the garage for nearly 2 months...unridden since I got this thing.
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  20. prestonpaul

    prestonpaul What?

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    That is so cool! Was that your son's white cane I saw tucked in the rear rack? As far as bikes go, I can't think of anything other than a hack that would let a near blind person have that experience!
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