Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. rivercreep

    rivercreep Banned

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    If it had a 6spd = it wouldn't pull it.
    I've got one and all I did was go 1 up on the front sprocket and 2 down on the rear = made the bike much more usable.
    My comment about it not pulling a 6th gear is simply because...if I were to re-do my gearing again, I'd have gone up 1 in front and let the rear alone. (it has a hard enough time pulling what I have now and will do 70mph in fourth with 5th acting like an overdrive...that it barely pulls with in any wind or up grades above 60mph.)

    The TU has a little engine that LOVES to spin up. (and I wouldn't trade my bike for any other 250!):D

    Ps. 14,000 trouble free miles now!
  2. devo2002

    devo2002 -Devo

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    Well Where is the link:D
  3. Rey & Vann

    Rey & Vann Vagabundo

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    Hello all,

    This was my first overnight trip on my 09 Super Sherpa. I've done multi-day trips on a couple of other bikes I own, a KLR650 and a DL650A Adventure, so taking off for the overnighter was no big deal, except that the Sherpa is small, low on the displacement scale, and delivers less than 15 hp at the crank, from what I know.

    Here she is, loaded and red-to-go:

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    I knew the bike would be fine mechanically, I bought it new in 2010 for my wife, who wasn't interested in it. I let it sit around for a year, starting it occasionally and giving my granddaughter rides on it. Last year, I decided to use it to run around town, to the hardware store, grocery store, etc. It was comfortable, zippy, and turned out to be real fun! The seat was terrible for longer rides so I replaced the foam and cover with a Seat Concepts kit. What a difference! I was taking longer rides now, up to 6~7 hours... Loads of fun!

    I had a TCI rack and Cortech bags set-up on the KLR, and replaced it with HT SU Racks and panniers, so I had the Cortech sitting around, and luckily, a fellow inmate had HT SU racks off a wrecked Sherpa for sale. I put the racks on my Sherpa, along with a new top rack from HT and mounted the Cortech's. Since there was no bottom support for the Cortech bags, I wondered how well they would work. They worked great! Here's a picture from the rear, all thats missing is the "WIDE LOAD" signage!

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    I didn't intend on Gifford Pinchot Nat'l Forest as my destination until about 1 hour before leaving. Was going to go into the Olympic Nat'l Forest, but I've been there a bunch, and frankly, I needed a change of scenery. I printed the GPNF MVUM, which took forever, but at least I would be legal.

    2 hours and 15 minutes after leaving, I was in Randle WA at Fischers Market getting last minute grub. Even though I had already packed enough food on the bike, I had a hankerin' for Idahoan brand instant spuds... Had to settle for Betty Crocker though, and hers ain't so good... Picked up a map and a NW Forest Pass, fueled up across the street, 1.2 gallons/99 miles...

    I went in on FR23 and it wasn't long before I came to a gravel road and left the pavement. Came to a trail called 275 Kraus Ridge. Nice looking single track, I thought, why not? The Sherpa is definitely not my KLX250, but this little bike took me right up that trail, handled great in everything but the super sandy spots, and even though I smacked the bags on everything along the way, it did everything I asked it to, and it never complained! I did take video of the trail with my Contour camera, I need to trim it down, and perhaps I'll post it here, later...

    Here's the video:

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    I ended up at North Fork campground, and paid a lot for the spot (18.00). It wasn't till I was bedded down and reading the MVUM carefully that I realized this whole area was okay for dispersed camping. Oh well, had running water at the edge of my site, and a pooper across the road. It was a very nice campground though, and in the end, I would pay the same again.

    Here is the site I stayed at:

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    Here's a list of what I took with me on the trip:

    Sleep Cell Sleeping Bag from Costco
    Eureka Chrysalis Hammock
    A-Lite Monarch Chair
    Thermarest Trail Scout Pad
    Kolpin 1.5 Gallon Fuel Can
    Tire Tools
    Mini Air Compressor
    Patch Kit
    Spare Front Tube
    Space Blanket
    Sm First Aid
    DeLorme GPS with SPOT Communicator
    DeLorme Atlas
    GPNF MVUM

    Variety of food, 2 oranges, 2apples, 4 pkg instant grits, instant coffee, powdered milk, granola bars, instant mashed taters, precooked packet rice, packet aloo muttar, packet chana masala, tuna packet and cookset, tiny butane/propane mix cooker, personal hygiene and butt-wipe and a variety of other odds and ends. Oh yeah, 6 liters of water, water purifier, shorts, tee shirt and flip-flops. Forgot, 1 emergency MRE and a Gerber folding shovel... Geeze!

    I know, long list of stuff, but I included it because I was amazed at how much I was able to bring along... I figure I could have stayed out for at least 3 days, and hell, I should have since my bride was cranky when I got home!

    Here are the last of the pics:

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    Mount Adams, I think... someone please verify.


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    Cispus River???


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    Mount Rainier


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    Mount Adams.


    The Super Sherpa performed flawlessly. I ran as fast as 65 mph on the interstate, but mostly stayed at 40 to 55. She pulled up the hills at WOT carrying the load and my fat 225 geared up butt without skipping a beat, and she ran the trail like a mountain goat! Definitely a GREAT BIKE!

    Just about 300 miles on 4.15 gallons of fuel, 72 1/4 miles per gallon. What a cheap weekend!

    I had a lot of fun doing this, and am looking forward to doing more. If anyone cares to join in, get in touch. I know it would make my wife happy if I stopped doing this stuff alone! :rofl

    Cheers!
  4. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    Rey & Van,

    Nice setup you have. I need to find some side racks & get my bikes set up for camping. Who needs an RV??? :wink:
  5. Nomomo

    Nomomo Adventurer

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    Nice report Rey. Looks like you packed everything you needed and then some. I'm hoping to do part of Washington's WABDR and you inspire me to get it done with my CRF230L.
  6. frog13

    frog13 Long timer

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    Know what you mean,I have had my TW for alittle over a year now...............great bike!.Incredible what that 196cc engine can do on road and off..........and yes,the smaller engines tend to like the rpm's alot more than being babied!.The engineers who designed the TW's short stroke engine ( feet per minute of the piston) was well designed and geared.
  7. Rey & Vann

    Rey & Vann Vagabundo

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    Lets go giterdun!:evil

    Rey.
  8. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    I'm a big time xr fan. (Have a xr400 and xr600) Bought this for my teenage daughter. She no likey- no electric start. What's a dad to do? Yep! Keep it n ride it! The bike had probably less than 300 miles on it, street legal 2002. Came out of a time warp 2002. I put a aftermarket seat, mt43 on it (back tire original and starting to crack) and proceeded to put over 1000 miles on it primarily off road. It's done the nastiest single track, rock scrambles and even some tough hill climbs I was surprised I could pull! I did need to watch my line better because i didn't have power to solve problems though. Also was really impressed in Mammoth on the trails and fire roads...hung tough with faster bikes! All that and 70+ MPG!! ?! Probably one of the best bikes around below 50 mph.
  9. ADVNCW

    ADVNCW Banned

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    Yes, inspring. Great to read that Rey rode singletrack- I did the same, quite a bit and camped on a peak with my 230L fuly loaded with my cmp.

    I will be doing the WABCDR at the end of August/ first of Sept on my CRF230L. I have the TCI windshield, rack on front with a 1.5 gal Kolpin, Giant Loop Great Basin and a dry bag. Suspension set on the stiffest, 15 w in the forks. Seat Concept seat. Nice little ride.
  10. jon_l

    jon_l Long timer

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    Sounds nice. How about photos of the rig?
  11. Nomomo

    Nomomo Adventurer

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    I second the request for pictures and a ride report.
  12. larry31

    larry31 Back Roads Explorer

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    Try making your own side racks. I used EMT pipe and bought the pipe bender from Home Depot.
    Total cost for first set was just under $50 including the bender.
    http://www.powers31.info/Side_Luggage_Frames.htm
    http://www.powers31.info/nx250_saddlebags.htm

    I made a second set for my KLR650.
    http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm ( scroll down on the page. )
  13. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    larry31,

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    Those are great. Thanks for the links. I will have to try my hand at bending some pipe.
  14. Pete-NZ

    Pete-NZ Been here awhile

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  15. ADVNCW

    ADVNCW Banned

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    Thanks. Will put it on the to-do list so I can post TR of the WABCDR and etc.
  16. sendler

    sendler Been here awhile

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    Facebook is a host. to post a photo hosted on FB:
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    come back here to the forum and click on the insert image icon above
    remove the http that automatically comes up in the field as the image location already has that
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  17. top_dog

    top_dog ADVrider wannabe

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    Brazilian Yamaha XTZ 250 Tenere

    Same engine as your XT250, but FI, some plastic, awesome headlights, better rear shock, bigger gas tank (16l, 4.5 gallons?). Highway speed easy at 60mph, top speed around 90mph (two up), 30km/l (65mpg?)

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    Cheers :norton
  18. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    That is a sweet bike! Wish they were sold here.
  19. ADVNCW

    ADVNCW Banned

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    I am 6'1", 230 lbs on a 230L! On gnarly singletrack mountain trails I can pick my bike up and spin it around! Pulls my big carcass very well < 45 MPH, climbs steep stuff to limit of traction. The tractive power band does not tend to spin the rear wheel- it just sticks and climbs! When loaded, the light bike is still light compared to others, and still easy to handle. Seat Concepts, 1 7//8 " handlebar risers. Stiffest shock setting, 15w in the forks, emissions can off and rejetted, XRs Only footpegs, MSR folding alu shifter, Flatland skid plate, TCI windscreen, rack, Kolpin 1.5 gal. Stock tank is 2.3 gal; 63 to 70 MPG loaded, 63 on hwy wide open up mountain pass, 70+ mpg on dirt. Honda handguards, Cannondale 30 oz bottle & holder attached by Topeak handlebar mount. Crossbar map holder. I have a 12 t front sprocket that I like for dirt riding but will probably use the stock 13 t traveling; neither allows uphill on a mtn pass > 50ish MPH loaded or unloaded- not enough HP. Giant Loop Great Basin 50L with a 20L dry bag in photo (I now have a 30L dry bag). Camp: The same light stuff I pull in the BOB trailer behind my Cannondale bicycle on family trips. Sub 4-lb tent, 2 lb sleeping bag, 1 lb REI inflatable insulated mattress, ultralight puffy coat with hood, 2 oz cookstove/ isobutane, titanium pot 1L, titanium skillet, freeze dried food and some ready to eat eg Dona Maria chicken en mole, Starbucks French Roast coffee tubes, light MSR water filter, 2- 1.5 L nalgene water bottles plus the 30 oz handlebar bottle, Petzl headlamp, Asolo walking shoes and nylon trousers and travel shirt when out of riding atttire. Small 2 oz AM/FM radio tuned to Rush Limbaugh.

    Thanks Wenatchee Honda guys for advice, service, seat installation, and emissions removal/ jetting.

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    Great trail bike, 83 MPG easy trail and dirt road riding! 63 MPG with camp load trying to go highway speed in the mountains. 70 MPG on tight technical trail riding. With the low-end power I think I am riding faster at lower RPM = > MPG, as I learn this bike.

    Thanks sendler :clap
  20. dec181966

    dec181966 Dude on a motorcycle

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    I already own a 2009 XT250 but would buy that in a heartbeat....Come on Yamaha get this to the US!!!