Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Oddometer:
    7,677
    Location:
    Southern New Jersey
    And the XT FEELS like its about 200 pounds.
    My friends old RM 250 feels heavier.

    I did not like the huge air scoops on the Honda.



  2. pfy50

    pfy50 Professional nOOb

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    591
    Location:
    Oneida, Tenn.
    Or if you want to jump into the 21st century:
    WR250R:At the dealer
    [​IMG]
    and prepping for 2 months journey to Alaska & Canada:
    [​IMG]

    :clap:clap:clap:rilla
  3. AtlasExp

    AtlasExp beer me

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2010
    Oddometer:
    463
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    XT250 you mean?
  4. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Oddometer:
    7,677
    Location:
    Southern New Jersey
    Yes, the xt225 and the xt250 are worlds different.
    The xt250 is not very popular being heavy and low power.


  5. Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 2 Cheap 4 a KLR

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2010
    Oddometer:
    752
    Location:
    Southern Va
    You can almost pick up 2 xt250s for the price of a wr
  6. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,585
    Location:
    Boone,NC
    The XT250 is the current model. I'd recommended the 225, since they're still easy to find with low miles and low prices.

    The WR250R has a huge following, but they are much more money.
  7. pfy50

    pfy50 Professional nOOb

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    591
    Location:
    Oneida, Tenn.
    Hello Shipman,
    AtlasExp is correct I think they stop making the XT225 in 2007, Your ride on the WR250F was a low end enduro bike not a Dual sport. The WR250R or even a XT250 is the Dual sport line.:deal


  8. pfy50

    pfy50 Professional nOOb

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    591
    Location:
    Oneida, Tenn.
    Yes the Xt250 is about $4900 and a WR250R is $6700. I bought mine as a 2011 left over for $4961 about the same for and XT250. But the forum is not about how cheap we can go, but about information(all the info) on touring with thumpers in the 250cc class and under:evil
  9. Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 2 Cheap 4 a KLR

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2010
    Oddometer:
    752
    Location:
    Southern Va
    Yeah Id just figured Id comment on it because alot of people look at 250s for upfront cost savings . The WR (unless you get a deal) is priced close to alot larger bikes , I could have picked up a honda NC700 for what a WR retails for last year . Now that doesnt factor in the smile factor of WR over a cheap big bike . The WR is a nice bike , a really nice bike but its priced at 1.5 times of all the other 250s on the market .
  10. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,585
    Location:
    Boone,NC

    He said getting a second bike wasn't feasible right now, so I mentioned an affordable alternative. (Although as somebody pointed out the 250F isn't a street legal dual sport model.)

    Some folks like em' new & some folks don't care. :ear
  11. bigdon

    bigdon Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Oddometer:
    2,741

    I like to buy mine pre scratched! :rofl
  12. Sierra Thumper

    Sierra Thumper Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Oddometer:
    641
    I don't understand why the new CRF-250L only weighs 26lbs less, wet weight, than the XR650L's wet weight? They couldn't get it any lighter? Disappointing to say the least :huh
  13. dfye55

    dfye55 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Oddometer:
    274
    Location:
    south central Indiana
    Ive heard of guys tearing down perfectly good bikes, welding in gussets to prevent cracked frames from loading for long distance touring in rough terrain. If a stronger frame is the reason my 250 cc weighs almost 300 lb dry, I don't mind.

    Sent from mobile
  14. spotlight

    spotlight Noob

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Oddometer:
    67
    Location:
    Maryville Tennessee
    Hmmm I have had no power issues I must be doing something wrong?

    [​IMG]
  15. Klay

    Klay dreaming adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2005
    Oddometer:
    105,850
    Location:
    right here on my thermarest
    How does that XT250 handle highway speeds? Do you have a horsepower figure?
  16. spotlight

    spotlight Noob

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Oddometer:
    67
    Location:
    Maryville Tennessee
    I don't have a HP figure, it cruises nicely at 55mph this was a picture of a week long 1300 mile ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway. I go much lighter on weekend trips if you keep the weight to around 35-40lbs you can't even tell it's there i have had a blast on this bike.

  17. Klay

    Klay dreaming adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2005
    Oddometer:
    105,850
    Location:
    right here on my thermarest
    I wonder which is faster: TU250 or XT250.
  18. JerryH

    JerryH Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,959
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    I have an XT225 with a lot of mods. The frame is an '01, so that is what it is registered as, but it has parts from a '94 and a '99 on it too. I have '99 and '94 parts bikes including one like new 1200 mile engine. It has a Works Performance rear shock, Progressive front springs, Clarke 4 gallon tank, a BryanSwens rack (not made anymore, very similar to the Immix Racing rack) a Cigar Mike centerstand (also probably not made anymore), a kickstart kit, choke relocated to the carb, Renthal bars (2" taller than stock) wide footpegs, a Z1 modded pipe and rejetted carb and several other homemade mods.

    For touring I based my luggage system on a milk crate (real, not Walmart) bolted to the rear rack. I made some extensions to the rack to make it longer, and attached a huge rigid bag (part of a T-Bag setup) behind the milk crate, and soft saddlebags to the sides of it. I also use the Tusk tank pannier (which can carry an extra gallon of gas in Gatorade bottles) or other things if you don't need the gas, and an MSR front fender bag which holds 2 new tubes. I have 2 fairly large ABS pipe tool tubes mounted to it. Somehow, $1000 for a complete Happy Trails pannier and top box setup just didn't make sense for such a small bike (that stuff is HEAVY)

    To me, for a small displacement dual sport, this is THE bike. And I have enough parts to keep it going for a LONG time. Yes I've spent a small fortune on the 3 bikes and all the aftermarket stuff, but the fun factor is off the scale. I would not even consider any other bike in this displacement class, unless it was the Suzuki DR200SE. The XT250, CRF250L, WR250, or KLX250 just don't appeal to me at all.
  19. DYNOBOB

    DYNOBOB lucky dog

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,333
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH

    Very nice setup!


    I setup the KLX for my 70yr old dad to go w/ me to CO/UT last Sept. Priceless memories. It will hopefully go to Prudhoe Bay in 2014.

    Bolam Pass
    [​IMG]

    Ophir Pass
    [​IMG]

    Clear Lake Rd
    [​IMG]

    American Flag Mountain
    [​IMG]

    Heading to campsite on White Rim Trail
    [​IMG]

    Potash Rd
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Hardscrabble campsite on WRT after some serious muddy sand.
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]




    .
  20. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2010
    Oddometer:
    2,585
    Location:
    Boone,NC
    Spotlight,
    That's a nice looking bike & setup.

    Klay,
    Lightly loaded my XT225 will hit 82 mph "indicated", which folks say is actually about 75. I don't know, but it sure feels faster than 75 when you're passing semi trucks on the interstate!! 40 or 50 miles is about all a 1/2 crazy rider can take, maybe a real nut could do it all day!?
    It's just not a big enough bike for the interstate, but it's very happy pushing those same speeds for hours at a time on a nice country 2-lane. The 4-lanes are just too windy, and intense for the XT225. I'm sure the XT250 is the same. A wind shield would probably help, a little.

    Most folks probably don't like to push their bikes that hard on a regular basis. The engine is very happy running between 60-70 indicated. I'm sure it would last a long time at those speeds.


    I'd also like to hear more about the TU250.