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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.
I've added this route to my prospective ride list.
Had to put in another plug for the Chinese bikes. I rode one 2-up around Colombia a few years ago and it worked fine. It's still going strong and I ride it whenever I get back there.
Here's the Ride Report.
A word of caution. I bought identical ATV tank saddlebags from Princess Auto for my DR200SE. The price was right (I think I paid $15) and they fit the DR's tank just fine. However, the bags are kept on the tank solely by gravity. The first (and last) time I used them I found that above 80 km/h (50 mph) they constantly flapped around in the wind (even with the weight of a full water bottle in one side and some food in the other). I had to keep my knees pressed against the bags to hold them down, which made for a very uncomfortable riding position.
The tank saddlebags are advertised for ATVs and probably are fine in that application. However, for use on a motorcycle some way of securing the bags to the gas tank is needed. If you've got a steel gas tank one option would be to sew magnets into the bags. Another possibility would be to sew on a strap so the bags can be hooked onto the edge of the gas tank.
Bottom line: I don't recommend these bags for motorcycle use. If you can afford them, tank panniers from Aerostich (http://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-tank-panniers.html) or Wolfman (http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Tank/tank_panniers.html) look like much better choices.
Thanks for the reminder. I'm re-reading that great story you wrote up.
A simple solution for the cheap flapping ATV bags is to place it over the seat and sit on top of it. The bags will be behind your legs and are not in the way, even if they happen to flap.
They are not "the best" bags, but they do make it possible to carry a few things, and they are about as cheap as anything you'll find.
I solved the flapping problem by stretching a cargo net over the bags, all the way to the bottom, fastened under the tank. Makes a convenient place to quickly slip in or out a pair of gloves or some other small item, under the net I mean. I also slip a map under there, folded to the part I'm using, or clip the heat controller for jacket or gloves onto the net. Once it's on there to hold the bags down, you'll find all kinds of uses.
Yeah, I read that whole thread a year ago. Great story. Thanks for posting. I recently rode Ecuador and may do Columbia next winter. Your story influenced me.
I'd love to ride Ecuador. Maybe next time.
I really need to get out again and do something worth a write-up.
Last time I rode in Colombia I was on the 1st day of a 1-week ride and wiped out on a little trail in the mountains. My riding partner said I was out for 7 minutes. Broke three ribs. End of the ride!
That's a great idea. I have a couple of those bungee nets & knew they'd be handy, but wasn't sure how to put them to use. I will try your tip.
I have an XT225. Waiting for it to get warmer in Chicago. Nothing makes winter go slower than having a new bike.
I plan to tour for the first time this summer. Thinking of starting with a local trip to a park about 4 hours away, stay for two nights and then home.
I'm not sure what I'll do during the day - find some fire-roads, or park and paddle. I'm an experienced tripper but touring is all new to me.
My question: I'm not seeing anything in the way of bike security. Does anyone use anything? I'm probably being paranoid, but there's nothing wrong with paranoid, right? My plan was to take a chain and a small u-lock that I can use to either chain the tires together, or chain my ride to a tree.
Is it necessary? Has anyone ever lost a bike to thieves on a tour?
ADV is an incredible forum. Thanks guys, for everything.
A lock doesn't really help in most cases. If someone wants to steal a bike, they can just pick it up if it's locked to itself, or just use a boltcutters if it's locked to something. One of the advantages that the minimal tourer often enjoys is that the bike often isn't of much value, and therefore isn't coveted by potential thieves.
I've carried a cable and a padlock at times to lock helmet and riding suit to the bike, and if I'm really paranoid, I'll carry things such as cameras or electronics with me if I leave the bike for some reason. But in all my years of traveling, I've never had a bike stolen from me or any items taken. It's a worry that usually is unwarranted and interferes with the enjoyment of traveling at times.
I don't think it is very common for bikes to be stolen. It can't hurt to lock the steering column.
What I've done in the past, particularly while touring around Mexico, is to do a couple things: 1) is to park the wedged somewhere that would make it difficult to get it out with the steering column locked and 2) is to use a nice chunky padlock on the front and/or rear brake rotor.
A dedicated thief could get the bike if they really want it but thieves are by nature a lazy bunch and wouldn't want to put in the effort.
I have never had a bike stolen on a tour in this country. In most small towns I would not hesitate to leave a bike on the street overnight in front of a motel or small-town hotel. During the daytime I would usually expect gear and luggage on the bike to be safe too, except in some big cities.
In Mexico, we would usually bring the bikes into a hotel courtyard for the night, and cable them together or to an immovable object. A friend once had his bike stolen after leaving it on the street overnight in front of his hotel, right across the road from a kind of seedy bar. He was able to hunt the bike down by following his tire tracks in the street, but simply using his cable like his companions did would have saved him a day of hassle.
We rarely ever lock our steering stem locks, most times leave the key in the bike as well! Never had any gear stolen but we do carry these small combination lock cables to lock our helmets and or jackets if we're parked somewhere sketchy.
I don't leave my gps in its mount if we can't see the bikes, lock it in a top case or take it with me. Basically common sense, and as one poster mentioned, you're not riding a Harley or a Gixxer, so you're not even on a thieves radar. Just protect your stuff from an opportunist, don't leave your Arai XD4 on the seat at a busy hiking spot / rest area for 4 hours while you're off on a hike.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately as I now have a minimal ride. But minimal $$$ it did not cost me, and its my daily driver to boot. I've found a few ideas.
One idea that I'm probably going to do is get a rLINK SR-i1100S. It's modular and one of the modules enables you to track your bike via GPS on your phone. What I fear most is someone just picking up my bike, throwing it on a truck and taking off. If you skip the actual siren options no one will know its there, hidden on your bike. Kryptonite has this service as well.
Another thought is putting a disc lock & alarm on it while you're away.
Locking it to something would be good as well, and Kryptonite offers a little insurance should one of their locks fail/break, $1,250. But the locks that qualify are really heavy, and that doesn't fit well with the minimalist tourer.
I never get tired of looking at this pic, if you can some how get yourself to look at the luggage you can see a little light security for soft bags.
You can find that kind of stuff, the bag locks not the girl here.
I appreciate the comments. I have not had problems on trips, use the steering lock and take my electronics with me. The rest of my stuff is not worth a lot.
When I changed insurance companies, I was able to add theft to my motorcycle policies for very little, good for my peace of mind.
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So I finally decided my old z750 may be able to learn a thing or two from a more modern bony but all I could afford was a honda 250 twister.Well what can I say the old Zed easily outruns it on tops,no surprise there BUT at speed the little Twister is more comfortable and when it comes to fuel consumption it is no contest with the Twister getting 10km/l more.Iam so impressed with little machine that I will be doing a 4 province 1000km run with it on the 6th April.Bloem to Balfour to Vanderbijl to Leeuwdoringstad and back to Bloem.Have already done two 400kay day jols on her as well as a 115 offroad jol and no probs.
Way to go bro! Nice long ride.
Those sure are some nice soft bags.