Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. dalehazelton

    dalehazelton Adventurer

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    Hello all,

    Enjoying poking around here and reading how folks do so much with as little as possible. I have a 2006 DR200 that I put 1,700 miles on last year, a few hundred mile days. I put a 16 tooth sprocket on it so it would have a bit more speed and I was able to get a best tank of 99 mpg. I did get it to an indicated 65 once, but 45-50 is the sweet spot really. It's for sale, however, as a Honda CRF250L followed me home one day last week. Great bike, although I have to admit, the riding experience is not significantly different. I will miss having a 3.5 gallon tank. I will miss flatfooting at stops. I will miss a flat tail to put my bag on. This is in the Hudson Valley at John Burroughs Slabsides. Bag is a Cortech soft bag and just bungied right on there pretty. DR is $2200 cash for a nice clear title. Only has 2,900 miles. People ask up to $3K on CycleTrader but that seems a wee high. It is a basically new bike though...
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  2. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    Keep us updated on the new Honda,I've seem a couple in town,and the dealer can't keep um on the lot they are selling quick,I'm waiting for someone who thinks they need a bigger bike so I can get one used,problem is I think people are gonna like um and not fall for the bigger bike upgrade!Good luck on your new ride.Remember the best battery tender is a full tank of gas and random wandering.
  3. dalehazelton

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    I've got about 350 miles on the Honda so far and I have to say that if you want that little bit of extra power it's worth it. MPG is down to about 75, coming off the DR200 I'm not happy about that, but what really pleases me is that it holds 55 without straining. According to my GPS the speedo is only one mile per hour optimistic. A gas gauge is nice, but it's so inaccurate that it might as well not be there - it drops to only one bar when you still have a half tank! I believe that the stator puts out about 370 watts so I have a Powerlet wired in and it reportedly can handle a jacket and gloves if you keep the revs up. Fit and finish is fantastic so the factory in Thailand must be very new and well supervised. I tried putting my Walmart/Coleman pad on and there is so little room under the seat that the plastic clips won't fit under it, so I may order the Seat Concepts seat for it (wish they made an all red version). Probably get a Manrack as well. I'm not an offroad guy, just want to be able to see an unimproved road and take it. I love the DR for introducing me to this kind of bike and I do like old tech as I feel like I can fix it myself. But fuel injection and discs brakes all around is really nice. I'll post a pic in the next day or two.
  4. Keithert

    Keithert Been here awhile

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    How well does it hold 60 in a headwind? My XT225 had trouble with this. Without the headwind 70 was no problem.
  5. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    Seat Concepts will make any color or color-combo that you want. They will even let you choose the thread color. I saw a KTM one that had orange thread over the Black areas and it looked great (if you like orange!).

    You can also choose different surfaces from grippy to smooth. Grippy is great for aggressive riding off-road, I probably wouldn't get it for a dual sport that's mainly ridden on the street. Btw, once the grippy stuff gets dirty you'll never get it as clean as when new, because it grips the dirt too.
  6. Jeepguy2

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    Dalehazelton, I just installed the manrack BBQ rack went right on & I'm very pleased with it. My gps is also 1mph less then my speedometer. Didn't know about the fuel gauge being so off, so I will have to keep an eye on it. The only other things I want to add are bark busters & a seat concepts seat. Also the small gas tank will probably get on my nerves & therefore replaced at some point.
  7. dalehazelton

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    I have to say that in a headwind or a side wind the bike is ALL over the place. That's disappointing, and I felt like it would be a touch more stable than the DR200 due to the higher weight, but I guess the taller height comes into play. I also felt that since the motor was derived from the CBR250 that it would have a bit more on the top end than it does. Knobby tires may have something to do with it, I think the Shinkos that are more street oriented would help me out. Gotta remember we're talking 250cc's here, so I'm pretty impressed with the bike overall. Although it is weird that the NC700X gets pretty much the same gas mileage. I still like the idea of fewer cc's hauling my butt around and not having to pull over to let cars pass - I did do that on the DR200.
  8. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    Insurance is probably less than it would be with the NC700x
  9. SAPB

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    I'm back on a dual sport, after many years of street only, and the front fender set up seems just plain stupid, as far as actually keeping mud/water off the front of the engine and your boots. Has anyone with upside down forks tried fabricating the fender right to the fork protectors? I had a bike with conventional forks years ago that I attached the fender right to a fork brace, a no go with U/D forks. This looks good, but probably wouldn't go, thinking it's a 19" wheel, while mine is 21" : http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en/motorcycles/product/TR650 STRADA#!/specifications
  10. lobolator

    lobolator Been here awhile

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    Just wanted to say thanks for this thread, it gave me the idea that I could ride my KLX250 2000+ miles, all for a long weekend of post winter warm weather in Folly Beach, South Carolina.
    Was going to take the car and haul the bike, dog, surfboard, and bicycle...but the car broke down. :baldy Faced with a repair bill that would negate my ability to go south, I found a dog sitter, put some Shinko 705's on the bike, changed the oil, loaded up, and went!
    Two and half days down, four days there, and 2 1/2 days back...totally worth the sore butt. :D
    The trip down was very windy, I got blown around a lot. It only bothered me on some of the taller bridges, but did add to my fatigue.
    The 1/2 days were the first and last days. I started in the White Mtns of NH and rode to a friends in Boston as a shakedown. I ended up dropping some gear there, a good choice as my cockpit was a bit cramped.
    From Boston, I rode to the state line of N. Carolina(a very long ride 7am to 1 am), where I slept on a covered picnic table for 6hrs. Up at 7am thanks to a rest area worker, I was off in 10 minutes. Only to realize I desperately needed coffee. Luckily I needed gas because my tanks is only 2 gallons. With coffee in me and gas in the bike I was back on the road and able to make dinner in Charleston SC, despite riding in rain for the last three hours and getting totally soaked. My stay included lots of family time, finding a new girlfriend, and lots of this...
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    If you can't go surfing, then go watch them surf.

    The ride back was pretty uneventful, the weather was much more calm. From S. Carolina I managed to make it back to my father's house in Delaware(9am-10:30pm, a long day but not too long). After some hot stew and a beer, I fell into a bed. Another early start and I made Boston by 6pm, just in time for dinner, a shower, and to go out and see my host play in his Bob Marley tribute band, Duppy Conquerors(they are awesome btw, Sally O'Briens every Monday night, it's free!). Up before the rock star, as usual, I was off towards home to collect my dog and find some pain killers and ice packs for my shoulder.
    Only things I'd do different is add a throttle lock of some kind, get a better seat, and a much bigger gas tank. But the throttle lock was really all I needed, my right shoulder was very sore after the trip.
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    And the final trip mileage at the last fill-up 10 miles from home.
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    Bike is a 2012 KLX250S with 16000 miles on it. I ride it everyday, all year(unless there is more than 4" of snow on the road, then the cage). Mostly ride to and from work (50 mile round trip), but I've also ridden it to the top of a few mountains on goat trails, it's a very competent off-roader. Great bike!
    Next up is Chicago! Got to go see the girl! Just the motivation I need to try for the Iron Butt Saddlesore. I know the bike can do it, but not sure I can. Came very close on this trip, 900 miles in 24 hrs, but I slept and I didn't have a try for an IB planned. We'll see....
  11. Nanabijou

    Nanabijou Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the great report lobolator!! :D Now think of how boring your report would have been if you had taken the car!! :lol3 On a bike it's always an adventure.

    Mike
  12. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    Good job Lobolator,I always laugh when people say you gotta have a big bike,it ain't true,heck people even think my KLR650 is to small,then I ask um"so where do you go on that big bike of yours?and why does it have a battery tender attached to it?"just my observations,to many miles on a Ninja250 I guess.
  13. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    Good for you! Just pack it up and go. I ride all year round and rode PA to FL for bike week last month, on a scooter. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876281
  14. lobolator

    lobolator Been here awhile

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    Yeah, I got a lot of bug eyed looks when they realized where I was from and what I was on. Even had a HD rider crap his pants, once he realized what I was doing.
    The only advantage to a bigger bike would have been a little more grunt at 70mph and more weight against the wind.
    My ass would still be sore, same with the shoulder.
    Lots of good gas station conversations were had 1) because of the little bike, 2) because it had a NH plate way down south, and 3) because it was a motorcycle out and about in April, like a crazy person. I didn't tell them I had just ridden all winter on studded tires in the Arctic like NH.
    As on my other various long distance motorcycle trips, people just gravitate towards a bike. Maybe it's because they realize you are alone or they just want a conversation, I don't know, but I've met some great people and had some crazy conversations. That never really happened as much doing the same in a cage.
  15. SAPB

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    Sounds like a great trip! I high sided a CL450 just off the Kanc, on that left just opposite the old ski jump place. Went in too fast, just before the covered bridge (Dougway?). Last thing I saw were sparks coming off the left foot peg, which forced the rear tire off the ground. Then, when the tire made contact again, it was like a sling shot. Live and learn, I've slowed down a lot now. We all get strange looks from folks when riding a 250, had a kid in the passenger's seat in a cage look at me on mine, on the interstate, his eyes were like saucers.
  16. Nanabijou

    Nanabijou Been here awhile

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    So true. So true. And many of the people who want to talk either own a bike or used to own one. They get it. Some of them want to be doing what you're doing right then at that very moment! What I find funny too is that you can be parked in a field of cars. If one other motorcyclist joins the group - you are suddenly his best friend. They will walk up to you and chat with you first. There is an instant connection there simply because you are riding a bike also.

    Mike
  17. Rhompin45

    Rhompin45 Rhompin45

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    That is awsome. I am fairly new to the motorcycle world. About a year and a half and half of that time was on a 150cc scooter so I couldn't leave town. Partly cus it wouldn't go past 55 and partly cus I didn't trust it. But since I got my tu250 in sep I put 8000 miles on it mostly to work. Living in az I can ride all winter long with no problem. I make 200 mile trips through the mountains once in a while but have never left the state. Everyone keeps telling me I need a bigger bike which I know is not true. This is very inspiring to see some one make a trip like that on a 250. I guess the only thing I really need is storage compartments on the bike so I can make it happen. I have always liked those klxs but was under the impression they didn't do well on the street. :clap what mpg did you get with wind and high speeds?
  18. Beemermcr

    Beemermcr Big, Dumb, Happy!

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    Simple, but effective throttle lock is a 175 cable tie (zip tie) placed around the grip, snugged up and shortened so it rests against the brake lever. Rotate it forward against the brake at your desired speed; snug it up if it doesnt hold; use a small pointed knife to release the catch if you get too tight or want to remove it for off road. Rotating the throttle off releases it.
  19. 8lives

    8lives Dharma Bum

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    I'm gonna try that,great idea
  20. lobolator

    lobolator Been here awhile

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    Worst mileage due to WOT into the wind was about 55mpg. Average was about 62mpg on the highway.
    At home around town I get 65-70mpg.
    The KLX on the highway is definitely stretching it's legs all the way. But it will do an actual 80mph(the speedo said 94 once :eek1, but it lies) if you get a good draft to help it get up there, not that I recommend drafting.
    If you want to pass, better plan way ahead.
    Love the KLX, 16000 miles in 13 months. No problems except bad gas clogging my jets. On road or off it just keeps on going, a couple of times without me.:huh