Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. Kaler

    Kaler Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Oddometer:
    44
    The local Kawi dealer refused to sell me a brand-new '07 Super Sherpa. Said she would have to bring it in from another dealer and would only make $250 on it, so why bother? Hookay then. :puke1

    Off to the not-so-local Yami dealer who was happy to sell me a new '07 XT225 for a nice price, delivery to my door included. Okay then! :clap

    So far – 6 wks and 2,700km/1,675mi later – I'm delighted with the XT's casual, do-it-all-whatever attitude and performance.
    The first delight was discovering the little Yammy's range touches 200mi. Caveat: that's riding with consistently small throttle openings and liberal use of the 6th gear ... but no lugging. That's cool, cuz such laid-back riding is my raison d'etre for MT'ing. :ricky

    So, the XT is yielding a consistent 87mpg(US)/105 mpg (Imperial). That dropped off to about 76/92 when I had to do a stint on the superslab at a sustained 65mph/105kph.
    Pre-purchase research indicated I could expect a range of only 140-150 mi. (in contrast to the 165 mi I've gotten with an '01 Sherpa).
    With a 4.5 litre gas jug onboard, the XT could easily handle a James Bay Rd-type haul between gas stops. Feels good, just knowing that.

    I've done a few weekend trips to Manitoulin Is. and environs ... featuring rail-trail and old forestry-road type exploring. Friggin good fun.

    I have just two words for the Kawasaki dealer lady with an attitude: Thank you!!

    Kaler

    Attached Files:

  2. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2004
    Oddometer:
    375
    Location:
    Anchorville, Michigan
    Kaler;

    Nice looking Yammie. Looks like a Wolfman tankbag, I love their products. I'm doing the James Bay Road right after our Labor Day weekend and thought about returning via Manitoulin to Tobermory or the shoreline route through Parry Sound.

    I'm split between taking my F650GSD or my DR200SE. The primary issue is Highway 11 (have never been on before) and the segment from Barrie to North Bay (250 km) and the level of speed I would have to maintain on that stretch. This is only reason I would consider taking the 650. Another issue is whether there is a surfaced shoulder where I can yield to faster traffic. I figure once I clear this section I can settle back to a 42-45mph cruise which I like to do on either the 200 or 650. Any help from our Canadian riders on this.



    Sam, you may already know this but check out Clark (Clarke?), IMS, Aqualine (AUS), and Acerbis for tanks.



    :ricky
  3. rockt

    rockt Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2003
    Oddometer:
    1,207
    Location:
    Canada

    Sounds like a great trip - one I hope to do some day.

    Which bike? Well, I live in Guelph, (about an hour west of Toronto) and I've gone to Manitoulin Island many times and wouldn't hesitate to take the 200 there. Where it will get tricky is on any of the main highways, like 11 and the TransCanada (17), primarily due to truck traffic. One time I left Manitoulin and went north of Nippissing to North Bay and down 11, and man, I got blown around by the trucks. And that was on my DR650. The trucks, and most cars for that matter, really push the speed limits up there, and I think you might be in the way, and not have a very relaxing trip on the 200. That's just me, but you will be kind of wringing the 200's neck to keep up and it's a long ride. The 650 will be much happier on that route. Also, the road to James Bay is apparently quite a flat, straight, high-speed highway, so again the 650 will be more appropriate there.

    Here's an idea: take the 650 for the James Bay trip and then do another minimalist touring trip on the 200 to Manitoulin Island. It's like another country there, very relaxed and kind of like stepping back in time about 25 years. Lots of exploring to do, camping available and perfect for the kind of pace thats most enjoyable on a smaller bike. I might even get my xr250L up there near the end of the summer and I could putt around with you for awhile.

    Have a great trip and keep us posted.
  4. Kaler

    Kaler Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Oddometer:
    44
    Steve:

    The Highway 11 route from Barrie to North Bay is definitely not MT-friendly. Fortunately, if you have time, there are many interesting backroads that can be linked together to make the Barrie-North Bay journey.

    Just one example: County Rd 13 running north from Port Severn to Rousseau.

    I suggest once you're in Ontario an immediate visit to a Canadian Tire store to pick up the "Ontario Road Atlas" by MapArt. I cut out the appropriate page and slip it into my Wolfman Explorer Lite map window.

    On your return leg, please do the Manitoulin-Tobermory thing, as the "shoreline route through Parry Sound" is Highway 69/400, only slightly less harrowing than the aforementioned Hwy 11. I've done this "shoreline route" in the last month on the XT225. The bike didn't complain about keeping up, but it was a "low quality" experience, as Pirsig might say.

    I hope you choose the DR200 for the JBR, cuz I look forward to your MT report.

    :ricky
  5. Tagati

    Tagati tEAM iDIOT

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,081
    Location:
    Townsville, Capital of Free Australia (NQ)
  6. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2004
    Oddometer:
    19,969
    Location:
    caro, michigan
    i can't speak for highway 11, but we used to vacation right off highway 17 and i remember bicyclists by the dozen. there was plenty of shoulder for them to ride on.

    just watch out for the porcupines. :lol3
  7. acjeske

    acjeske n00b

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Oddometer:
    6
    Just found y'all and have only read the first half, but I'll post since internet's a bit scarce in my neighborhood. I ride in South Africa, though I'm from the U.S. and the Honda CTX200 farm bike is my dangercycle. You can find it on the Honda SA or Oz page.

    In any case, it comes standard with headlight and rear rack, to which I had added some supports for soft bags, and a 10L petrol jug. A couple months ago, I did a 1000km day across Lesotho (mountainous gravel roads for hundreds of kms), but it took over 20 hours!

    So, to the reason for my post--changed both sprockets, up 1 to 14 on front and down 2 to 45 on rear. And I ride wide open most of the time. The vibrations don't bother me, and I lay on the tank a lot. Flats are maybe 110kmph (66mph) if I'm lucky. I've put on 9,000 miles this way, in a year or so. Haven't checked the valves in that time, but they were alright when I got it, with almost 2000 miles on it (it's a 2004). There's a little clicking in the engine. Maybe valves?

    Part of the problem is that I'm still without a manual, though I'm working on Honda about that, so I still don't know what the valves are supposed to be set at.

    Or could a clicking be the timing chain? Another CTX rider here was having his replaced, I believe, with fewer kms than mine...

    Other than this noise, there's some slight weeping on the left side of the head under a vertical cover, and some at the rear of the head on the left side under a small cover on the head in front of the starter.

    These two problems beg the question--am I killing the Little Red? I keep up on oil, and all other basic maintenance.

    Ideas, questions, and comments?

    Attached Files:

  8. acjeske

    acjeske n00b

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Oddometer:
    6
    And here's the engine weeping...

    Attached Files:

  9. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2004
    Oddometer:
    375
    Location:
    Anchorville, Michigan


    Precisely, since MT riders travel much in the same way as bicyclists, a shouldered road provides a considerable margin of safety and a manageable route. Unlike our interstates many of the Canadian highways are not limited access, other than in a common sense way. I've traveled 17 many times, a fantastic stretch of road, between the Soo and Wawa and seen plenty of cyclists in the past.

    Maybe Kaler and rockt (thanks for your input) could comment on 11's shoulder.



    :beer





    :ricky
  10. CMS

    CMS Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Oddometer:
    290
    Location:
    Southern,OHIO
    Where is Manitoulin Island? been to Guelph ,but how do I get there from Guelph better yet from Southern Ohio [Dayton ]. the place sounds wonderful,much like the Canada I knew as a boy on vacation with my parents. I too have a 650 [Suzukl DL] and a 400 [DRZ 400 S] sounds like the 650 would be better but I really enjoy the 400]:ricky Still working on a 250, Thanks CMS :ricky
  11. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2004
    Oddometer:
    375
    Location:
    Anchorville, Michigan


    Northeastern Lake Huron.

    Get yourself to Tobermory, Ontario and then head roughly NNW, but don't forget to take the ferry because the puddle is a bit deep. :rofl Easy run from Dayton with cross at either Detroit/Windsor, any of the ferry crossings along the St Clair River, or at Port Huron/Sarnia. You could take the long way crossing at the Soo taking 17 east and down to Little Current.

    :ricky
  12. SteveBroskey

    SteveBroskey Teach me this knowledge

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    541
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
  13. jgas

    jgas Stoogely Adventurerer

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Oddometer:
    843
    I'm having plenty fun on my beat up, ragged out, 95 XR 250 which I traded an SKS rifle for. I bought it from a guy who raced GNCCs in 96-98 in A class on it. The frame is so worn out it shakes and wobbles. It has a tank from an 86 with homeade brackets on it. I made the seat foam and cover. The front fender is from something, don't know what. It ain't Honda. I have a huge KC Highlights chrome 4 wheel drive truck headlight on it. One side panel is melted, both have been spray painted, which is peeling. Ain't got no graphics, but for some half torn off stickers. The rear brake disc is cut down from a John Deere log skidder brake disc. The brake and shifter pedals have both been welded back together. I just did an 80 mile all dirt road trip, used a half tank of gas, a half quart of oil, ruined a rear tire and tube, and had a blast.
  14. zoltan

    zoltan Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Oddometer:
    268
    Location:
    NOCO
    klr 250 needs new skins, and i was thinking of going a little burlier than the kenda 270's(50-50). i like the price of the 270's but i do a lot more dirt than road these days, and was looking into a trials rear and maybe a metzler karoo front. anybody know of a relativley cheap, dot approved rear trials tire, with somewhat stiff side walls that comes in a klr 250 size(17" i think)? and if so, what are the road characteristics? i searched "dot trials tire" with many results but little info. thanks
  15. chuby37

    chuby37 tw200

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2006
    Oddometer:
    9
    Location:
    bear mnt. NY
    I have a Tw200 AND AM ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR RIDERS IN THE SAME SIZE BIKE CLASS, ARE YOU ON THE EAST COAST ? WERE AT,,, WELL IF YOU KNOW OF ANY RIDES , OR GUYS GOING OUT FOR THE DAY LET ME KNOW ,,, THANKS DAN:lol3
  16. chuby37

    chuby37 tw200

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2006
    Oddometer:
    9
    Location:
    bear mnt. NY
    [:rofl I have a tw200 and am allways looking for riders in the same class, let me know of any rides , or guys just going out for the day,,dan
  17. rockt

    rockt Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2003
    Oddometer:
    1,207
    Location:
    Canada
  18. endurotour

    endurotour Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Oddometer:
    285
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Have fun when you get here, if you do want a little out back piece of mind pick up a EPIRB before you leave the larger citys, about $230 AUS, and it brings the nice rescue people to you with a pizza and all is a lot warmer and toasty when you no help is on the way... No charge to you to rescue your ass if its the real deal (with luck never to be used).. have fun and enjoy..
  19. endurotour

    endurotour Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Oddometer:
    285
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Hi ya, sweet ride.. I had to sell mine (well only need the one bike now)

    the Acerbis Honda XR650 23lt tank fits on smoothly, the IMS Honda XR250/400 17lt tank goes on with a little more work, Acerbis TTR-250 23 lt tank is a touch hard to find.. Nomad rear 8lt tank is sorted for the TTR,

    if unaware www.ttr.com is a good source of stuff as to the Yahoo group..

    rip it up..
    al
  20. Outwardbound

    Outwardbound Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    706
    Location:
    Strongsville, OH
    Pictures !

    Show us your rat bikes !