Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. Chadwell

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    Thank you Paper!, That Aerostich Darien jacket looks just about perfect for my needs. Looks like I'd be best off with the DarienLite, as they say it's better for large temperature changes and better for cold weather because it will flex better (meaning I could use it on a snowmachine)

    Too bad the damn gear is more than half the cost of my bike, looks worth it though.

    Thank you SAPB, I was not aware of this thread. Very helpful!
  2. davenowherejones

    davenowherejones short guy

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    And don't carry any of the guns in CANADA. We will throw you in jail for almost any gun.

  3. Chadwell

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    Thanks! I posted something in the DR200 thread, but searching that massive thing is a problem. I know I put in a lot of stuff so my results may be mixed. If I don't find the answers I'm looking for this way then I will separate everything out. I've never been a part of such a large forum, It make searching for information very difficult. So I'm relying on folks and hoping everyone here is nice to the Noobs :D

    A 24 inch AR is much larger than the 10/22 with butler creek folding stock and 16 inch tac-sol barrel that I will be carrying (overall length is about 27 inches), but my 10/22 is scoped so I would like to protect mine as well. I was thinking of using something like THIS, but it doesn't solve the scope protection problem. Maybe I'll just take my chances and mount it somewhere on top.

    What First-Gear jacket do you have?

    I really love the idea of sewing a holster to the top or side of a tank bag, I had not thought of that. Maybe if I get one that's universal enough I can use it for a variety of pistols.

    OR! I can sew a "belt" (maybe just a thick cam strap) on to it, and thread in any OWB belt holster! :clap

    Thanks!

    -Chadwell
  4. Chadwell

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    Understood. Always good to have the reminders for folks who don't know.

    I live 40 miles from the Canadian border so I have become pretty accustom to all of the regs. The pistols can't go into Canada. Rifles are ok with certain restrictions, and it costs $15 or $25 per gun for a 3 month permit. The 10/22 needs to be altered to be legal in Canada but I have the parts lying around.
  5. Ironman606

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    Chadwell what's needed to make your 10/22 legal?? Barrel to short or something?
  6. Chadwell

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    For Americans, we cannot bring in pistols, or rifles with barrels less than 18.5 inches (shotguns too, but 18.5 is required in the US as well unless you have an NFA Tax Stamp).

    Rifle magazines are limited to 5 rounds, except for rimfire (where the regulations are less clear)

    And no "assult-type" weapons, whatever the hell that means and how they judge that I don't know.

    Cost is $15 or $25 (don't remember) per weapon when you declare and you can bring it across the border then for the next 3 months.

    Anytime plan on bringing a gun across I check with my US Boarder Guard friend and make sure that It'll be fine.
  7. Chadwell

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    yup, the barrel is 16 inches and needs to be 18.5. You have to be careful here because many people have guns that are otherwise legal, but since the barrel length requirements are different in the US and Canada, some forget, especially with rimfire carbines.

    The folding stock IS legal however, but I worry taking it across the boarder because you never know how they're going to react so I always just switch it back to the factory stock.
  8. Chadwell

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    No, I'm not sure of that. The rimfire rules are different than the centerfire rules and I haven't seen anything that clearly defines them. In the regs that I have seen, the difference with rimfire and centerfire rifles that are legal in canada is in allowable magazine capacity.

    That being said, A friend and I took his old Nylon 66 with a 16 inch barrel across the border a couple of years ago and they didn't give us any trouble... but at the time, I didn't know about the different barrel length problem. Later we thought we might have just gotten away with something.
  9. Hawk62cj5

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    I have the kenya jacket which I like but if I did it again I would go with the Katmandu just to have a little more length in cold weather . I was going to sew a belt tab on the side of the bag to hang one of my owb holster on .If I do it I was going to cut a plastic jug to stiffen the side of the bag to keep the gun from flopping around so much
  10. Chadwell

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    Thanks, I'll check those out.

    With the holster, My only concern is the one you just addressed with the gun flopping around. That's why I originally was wondering about a rigid mount.

    But, I like the idea of using any of my regular, unaltered holsters, and quickly cinching it down to a tank bag. The other option would be to figure out a way to cinch it directly to the tank.
  11. Rhompin45

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    I just got a bilt explorer jacket. It seems pretty good but I haven't had it in water yet. But for pants I actually use snowboarding pants. They don't have knee pads or any thing but are very durable. What I really like about them is there is a clip that clips on your shoe strings with elastic band that stretches around the top of your shoe so they won't let cold air or water in. And they are very water proof. When it's cold I put pants on under them. as far as warmer weather they are comfortable up to about 70 degrees. For sleeping bag just remember down bags are lighter for the warmth but do not do good when they are wet so I would suggest otherwise. I Can't say much for gear as the coldest it gets here is about 30 in the winter but I ride year round and I stay warm with what I have. For shoes I use keen hiking boots. They are water proof but breath they use a simalar materal to gore tek. They have good grip keep my feet warm and dry and after 3 years of everyday use they are still holding up well with the exception of the tread is gone. I have never carried a rifle before but I carry a .45 1911 on my hip in an inside waist holster under my jacket. But we don't have to have a ccw here in az. To Carry my gear I strap a hiking backpack to my back seat. It has a waterproof rain fly that goes over it for added protection. Plus if I wanted I could park the bike throw the pack on and do some hiking and camp out. The down side is its big and crowds me while I ride.
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    I tried to post an avatar pic with my set up but with out a computer I don't know how to resize pictures.
  13. Klay

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    Let's talk motorcycles here, not gun stuff. You know who you are.
  14. Birdmove

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    I have had good luck with the Bilt products. You can even get some of the stuff from Amazon.com. They make an inexpensive waterproof boot that I like. Also, I lost my favorite pair of Bilt rain pants about a month ago. They aren't the cheapest ones, but are about $25 or so. These have a good sized velcro'd pocket on the front of the left leg. I think their stuff is a bargain.
  15. Chadwell

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    Roger that, though for my situation bear protection is required motorcycle equipment.

    But, I believe I have found that my solution will be to mount it to my tank so no need to discuss it any further.

    Thanks for getting us back on track, is there anything you might be able to help with? Seems like you might have some of the information I'm looking for. Packing list maybe for this kind of trip?

    Thanks, I had not heard of Bilt.
  16. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    [QUOTE

    Thanks, I had not heard of Bilt.

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    Bilt is the store brand for Cycle Gear, a national chain. I have one of their $100 dual sport helmets that I like for local dual sporting. I wouldn't want the visor on long high speed street rides, because it catches the wind. Their liner/underwear gear, called Freeze Out, is good quality & affordable, especially when on sale. I have the glove liners and booties, which are great for the feet. I think a lot of their outer wear has a life time warranty, but I have not bough any yet If they do actually have the life time warranty I will buy it next time, because my off-road gear has let me down lately (ripped crotch stitching & punctures)

    I also got a couple of 12V sockets for my bikes & atvs, but have found that I don't really use them. You might though.
  17. Ed@Ford

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    I also have the Bilt Explorer DS helmet. I disagree some about the visor being poor for higher speed riding. I have had several brands...the expensive Shoei and Arai DS helmets with the visor in place would catch the wind at 55 mph or above and just about jerk your head off...similar with the AFX-39. The bilt pulls way less than any DS helmet I've had...and costs peanuts on sale. I do run with the face shield...never goggles...that might make a difference...but I can't comment. It's a noisy hemet, but I use earplugs, so no worries. Since this thread pertains to MINIMALIST TOURING...gun questions, in my opinion, are "fair game"...no pun intended. I have the AR-7 that all packs into the stock and is quite light...do I assume it is "unwelcome" in Canada because the barrel is probably not 18"?
  18. GlennR

    GlennR Playin' in the Fire

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    I was just comparing the visor resistance to a street helmet without one. I think the visor is removable for highway use, but I've never taken mine off, because it looks "cool". :wink:

    I tend to ride a bit over the posted speed limits, so getting whipped around by the head get tiresome pretty quick. Most of my dual sport riding is on local back roads that are so twisty a good racer probably wouldn't average 55 mph, so the visor definitely doesn't bother me there.
  19. 8lives

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    I have some Cyclegear stuff,a jacket and pants,been wearing them regularly for 2 winters and I like the gear,it's been through some cold,wet,Nasty stuff no leaks and I think the 5 year warranty is good.
  20. frog13

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    Don't forget about Motoport gear , go and take a look.