Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by SIKLR250, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. TheOtherBart

    TheOtherBart Long timer

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    Sweet! I'm not the guy with the 225, and I do have a rack on my XR. Looks like I have a trip to Menard's in my future. I even have some PVC pipe from an old project knocking around the apartment, probably just need fittings.
  2. entropysedge

    entropysedge chaos watcher

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    well I do have the Load Lord rack on my XT225 ... do you have any photos of your set up?
  3. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

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    I'm running the James Bay Road (check it out with a search) right after Labor Day for a week or so after which I would be open. Depending on who speaks up and would be interested in attending an eastern rally will determine where (WV, NC (BRP),PA, NY(Adirondacks),or KY?). Or we could raid one of the Adv Rider rallies.


    Despite the fact that I have a 250 Ninja I would opt for the thumper because of the more relaxed leg angle and more comfortable riding position. Never found the vibration to be an issue. Speaking of the the two DR's I own, neither has balanced wheels. Both are scheduled to be reshod this year and I will balance the wheels.


    :ricky
  4. T125

    T125 Slightly Overdressed

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    Steve:

    1. I've read about the JBR quite a bit. Wow! What a great trip...are you going to do it on the 200? How will you carry extra gas?

    2. Re: your pannier post here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4021328&postcount=150
    Is all the attachment work you did necessary, i.e. does Happy Trails just sell you racks and boxes and leave the attaching to the buyer?

    Best,
    Jeff

    PS: I would be very interested in whatever Minimalist Touring hootenanny we could put together...
  5. MartinDKtm

    MartinDKtm Been here awhile

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    Can't beleive that none of you still ride or posted yet on the king of them all. The one that started a few generations of rider and if they could talk they would tell a dumpload of fantastic adventure ride...The mighty Ct70. Here's a picture of mine in Sm tire setup. It's a 1984 with only 5200 original km's. All stock brutal power execpt for the gianelli pipe. Bought it 10 years ago with only 1078km on the clock. I still take it out a few times in the summer around town. Yes it's still plated. It draws lots of attention from other, in fact more than my 640 Ktm and lots of questions and memories.



    Martin
  6. Outwardbound

    Outwardbound Been here awhile

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    Got my MT bike today....

    Picked up the DR200 today for Amim Sahib (She Who Must Be Obeyed..)

    It's in great shape: now to proceed with the traditional "tearing apart and rebuilding". Damn shame it's 12 degrees in my garage..... Seems like every time I get a new bike I just can't wait to tear it all apart. Some type of compulsive disorder no doubt; closely akin to Multiple Bike Syndrome.

    I should have it up to 'my' standards be the time the snow melts.

    An MT rally in WVa........yeah.....that might be a player !
  7. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

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    Jeff;

    Yes, it will be on my 200 unless my work schedule closes the window. :deal

    If anybody else is interested I would not have a problem with company. I originally planned a solo trip leaving the day after labor day. September is the best window between the summer bugs and snow. You have to be prepared for both. I cruise at about 42-45 mph. I had riding buddies interested until I told them I was riding my 200 and not my bigger bikes. You should have seen the looks I received.


    I can pull almost 300 miles before reserve so making the fuel stops won't be a problem. I will carry 2 of the one pint Sig fuel bottles with fuel for stove and emergency reserve. I am considering bringing a 1 gallon fuel container in case the weather patterns are nasty and I have to "hole up" or "fight it out" but not sure as of now.



    The most difficult part of the trip is the approximate 900 miles from home to the beginning of the JBR. There are bigger bikes I could take to reduce the travel time but I really want to take the 200. My reasons are it's lightweight, economy, it's fully rigged (as are my others), and I just plain like the bike.



    Regarding the panniers:

    Mounting the racks are no real problem but box fitting to the racks can be done by owner or Happy Trails (I think?). My boxes had already been fitted to my F650GSD by me because I prefer a level box as opposed to a raked setup. In checking layout to the 200 the boxes I had were close enough to get by with by adding a minor elongation of the thumbscrew holes (upper) and then it was a done deal. As I have already mentioned I am very happy with the result.

    If you have any questions post or PM me.:beer


    Steve

    :ricky
  8. QWERTY

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    Don't sell the TW200 short. I have made a couple overnights in temps down to freezing, preparing for the TAT this summer. Stock, the bike will haul my 250 pounds of lard 68mph, more with a tailwind, less with a headwind. Changed from 14-50 to 15-47 sprockets, no change in street performance except a lot less shifting. With stock gearing 1st gear is useless on the street. Vibration now begins at 66mph instead of 55. The big tires pump the load capacity up to nearly 400 pounds, a major factor for fat people like me.

    Biggest problem I've had is warming it up--it hates the cold. It won't run over 50mph when the temps are below 20*F. Maybe carb icing? Backing the idle mixture screw out 2 full turns, raising the needle, and one size bigger main jet helped with cold starts and quicker warm-ups.
  9. DoctorQuest

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    I'm new to this site. I saw a post from someone seeking a rack for their dual sport.

    check out
    http://www.cyclebuy.com/shopping/promoto/racks_yam.htm

    I bought a pro motto billet rack for my Yam xt225 (2006). Very nice looking, easy to install and very handy. Quality is first rate.
  10. Old_Lion

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  11. Burtonridr

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    Here is my 97 TW200 :D


    Like the new gas can? It holds 3.2 gallons, my range is now about 330 miles... and yea thats my 6x5 rack in the background :evil .... and a wasp trap(no simpathy for the sierra club, Tree huggin hippies...sorry:lol3 )




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  12. T125

    T125 Slightly Overdressed

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    Awesome, Steve! Best of luck on what sounds like a fantastic trip. I'd love to tag along, but September is always too busy to sneak away for long.

    The Sigg bottles are excellent. Maybe you'd consider this for your 1gal.+ storage. It's the most "elegant" solution I've found, largely because it packs flat!
    http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=4808581&showprevnext=1

    Re: the panniers
    Were the thumbscrew holes predrilled or did you have to tap them out?
  13. steve gs

    steve gs Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the link, had not considered looking at ATV accessory products but it makes sense.


    Regarding the panniers:

    The racks from Happy Trails (HT) have 8mm inserts fitted in tubing for the thumbscrews that pass through pannier wall into tubing. The lower mount/support is "L" shaped plastic that is (HT) drilled and tapped (8mm) to receive screws from inside of the pannier.


    The original (HT) kit for my F650GSD did not utilize SS fasteners. In fitting out I changed to all SS and of the proper length. The DR200SE rack set included SS screws but not SS nuts and washers.:eek1 :eek1


    The panniers were NOT drilled from HT because as I mentioned I prefer a level pannier to a raked. I specified at time of order to Not drill panniers. I taped the contact wall and adjusted the position until I had the postion where I wanted it(use clamps), marked, and drilled. :deal



    I have fitted 3 sets of panniers; the first one is always the hardest, just take your time.


    IMO, there is nothing like a good quality rack system. With hard boxes, moderate loads, and long trips you will have the durability to endure. There is usually enough to deal with anyway and if not, you will enjoy your adventure even more.
    :beer


    :ricky
  14. Zapp22

    Zapp22 ZAPP - Tejas

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    This is a great thread. Kudos to all of you. I figure it takes a guy with big huevos to ride a demure steed.....

    Hey, I am obviously un-knowledgeable about this class. And I don't want to stir dissension just a question that I'm sure will have opinions. But here goes: What is the lightest 250 that is regarded as "bulletproof" AND is built in such a way that you can carry a lot of gear on it?????
    To put the question in spec/outline form, the criteria is:
    1. Light Weight.....
    2. "Bulletproof" according to realuse testimony....
    3. Carries a lot of gear [in stock or near-stock form]

    thx! I'm subscribing to this one....
  15. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, slow

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    Probably a toss up between the Super Sherpa and the XT225 for weight. Both are capable.
  16. BikePilot

    BikePilot Long timer

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    A DR250SE would also be well worth considering. Its totally bulletproof, phsycially compact, fairly light for a DS (280lbs dry IIRC), 6spd trans, lots of aftermarket support etc.
  17. smokerider

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    Hey guys, thought i would share this link to the thread my Brother in Law put up about a trip we did a few years ago. He was on his KLR650 and i was on his TW200 because my XL350 died right before the trip...

    it was a blast and the TW held up fantastic. Starting out on it i wasn't sure how it would be touring on such a small bike but we did 4500 miles in 11 days and though we had some setbacks it was a trip to last a lifetime. enjoy!

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205682
  18. smokerider

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    here is a pic from the trip to bait you all!

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  19. motocyco

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    My vote would be for the XT225. It's 238 lbs. (dry weight), I've heard reports of 70,000+ miles (20-30,000 more common), and is rated for 404 lbs. capacity. I love mine, It's not much for highway travel, but I've passed DR650s in the sand, and can easily drag it under low limbs.
  20. Kaler

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    Had a Sherpa two summers ago ... rode a KLR650 last summer ... going back to an '07 Sherpa this year (still being marketed here in Canuckland).

    Pros: 161 mi. range (closer to 200 mi. with a 1 L. Sigg bottle in each tank pannier). Can't compare w/Steve's DR200 at 300 mi. range, I know ...
    Very capable on the highway when the superslab can't be avoided. Just plain friendly and easygoing everywhere else.
    Stainless exhaust looks very cool, IMO.

    Con: shim adjustment for valves.

    Does the XT225 have screw-locknut valve adjusters (as I believe the DR200 does)?

    K eh? LR