Mirror mirror on the wall...

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by meat popsicle, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    After having my 03 LC4 Adv. mirror break off from a minor drop WITHOUT even contacting the ground I am looking elsewhere for ideas. It probably was a mfg. flaw but it still sucks. I could post pics of these options but they are in the links if that is ok.

    Many people seem to like the Dual Star Adjustable Mirrors:
    http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Equipment/adjustable_mirror3.htm

    also here?:
    http://www.fourstrokesonly.com/MirrorRound3.html

    "Our renowned, fully adjustable convex mirror has no equal! Less vibration and more visibility than any other dual-sport motorcycle mirror made.
    Mounts on the rise of all stock and after-market handlebars.
    Housing is of high-strength and impact resistant Polycarbonate. Corrosion proof stainless steel bracket and stainless steel/aluminum hardware.
    We designed these to replace stock mirrors that are oversized and prone to breakage. Even on the tightest trail these 2.5 oz. mirrors stay put and intact.
    ITEM # DESCRIPTION RETAIL QTY
    38-00000-000 DUAL STAR ADJUSTABLE HANDLEBAR MIRROR $16.95 EACH"

    Others, like Creeper, like the Bikemaster folding mirrors:
    http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/MirrorsFAQ.htm
    http://order.powersportspro.com/cart/newproddet.asp?isbn=tr601117&Ref=
    http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Cha...alse&mscssid=E02CBD4794464B299177DCE5F2374B25

    Barbasma put on the KTM SXC mirrors (folding) that looked alot like the ones offered by KTM Sommer:

    http://www.ktm-sommer.de/Seiten_04/F_zub_adv640_04.html

    But I haven't read any reviews of the Sommer option. Any more opinions? :ear
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  2. creeper

    creeper Still alive...

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    Better mirrors will not detract from your wankerness. :evil
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  3. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    I'd like to keep this in forum for a bit before you have it tossed into Jo Momma. Play nice and I will send you my RD350B head and you can play with ports instead of those damn new-fangled valves.

    The F650 fellas seem to think your Bikemaster mirrors vibrate too much, but that is better than the $100 price tag for BMW replacements... any comment or do ya just wanna lob shells?
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  4. creeper

    creeper Still alive...

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    If I can't fuck with you... then who Meat? :D

    I like my bikemaster/ken sean mirrors but... I don't think there is a perfect mirror out there.
    We want them small and cool looking, but then we want to see out of them, and then we want them to be vibration free, and finally, we want them to fold out of the way at a moments notice and fold back immediatly with no ill effects. Oh yea... and we don't want to spend more than about 30 bucks.
    I've looked for a long time... haven't found the perfect mirror yet.
    I guess I'm happy with the KS/BM mirrors because they do all of the above fairly well.

    Gota go to work... Ciao Meat
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  5. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

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    I have the Sommer mirrors as well, but have not yet had a chance to try them out.

    You might want to check out the setup Dirtyvfr has on his bike, he has extra mirrors mounted low on the bars, allowing you to pull the main mirrors and still be legal. (I do not run mine for serious single track, they come off, along with the turn signals.)
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  6. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    Hi Meat,

    Most of the Adventure riders in germany have the SXC Mirrors mounted.
    There is also a cheaper version of these Mirrors coming from Asia.
    Mirror
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  7. RL Lemke

    RL Lemke Long timer

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    The folding mirrors are what I use. Folded out they look legal, and folded in they are out of the way. Really though, I never fold them in. It is just that when I crash they move out of the way real well. I have had one of the mirrors break in a wierd crash. So I ordered a bunch of 4" mirrors from a craft shop. A simple squirt of silicone and the mirror is as good as new.

    Another great feature of these mirrors is that the mirror itself slides up and down the stalk. In tight woods I slide it down a bit.
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  8. live2ridetahoe

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    The mirrors on my f650gs were crap and the dealer wanted a boatload of money to replace them. I went and bought a cheap pair of replacements(about $9 each) and they work awesome. The mirror itself is housed a frame, not the typical ball and socket setup from BMW. You need a wrench to adjust them. I just put em where I wanted them and they haven't moved in over 7K miles.
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  9. creeper

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    So MP... what did you decide... or are you still thinking about it?

    Mirrors... to me fall under the heading of "consumables"... like tires, brake pads, grips etc. You get a set, you use 'em... then something you perceive as better comes along... you buy 'em, they turn out to be crap... it's a never ending process.
    In 6 months, I'll have found some strange bicycle mirror made by elves in Croatia that is the absolute bomb... for about 6 months.

    Creep 'O' the Woods
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  10. Rad

    Rad Done riding

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    I run one Dual Star mirror on my 640 Adventure.

    I use the bike only for dirt.

    The mirror is so I can ride to the dirt and be legal.

    If ya wanna really see behind ya on the street, buy a better mirror
    :nod

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  11. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

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    That looks just like a "third eye" bicycle mirror with an 'L' bracket instead of the bar end rubber mount.
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  13. sstodvictory

    sstodvictory Been here awhile

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  14. Loadedagain

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    factory duke 2 mirrors work for me and they look great too.

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  15. rallybug

    rallybug Local Yokel

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    What thread fitting are they, Col? 10mm? Do you get a reasonable view behind?

    I'm thinking maybe to change my Dommie's mirrors - the left-hand one needs replacing anyway as it keeps blowing back onto my forearm at any real speed.
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  16. PASSMORE

    PASSMORE Just the last name...

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    I use the same - glad you posted with pic on these....



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  17. creeper

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    I was perfectly satisfied with the Ken Sean mirrors I have... then you do this mirror thread and I start thinking. (sound of dry rusty gears with chipped teeth... grinding away)

    So I'm thinking... See, I hate bar mounted mirrors but, I also kinda like to see behind me, or at least to the side, when I ride the streets.
    Did I mention I hate bar mounted mirrors?

    So, I'm staring and thinking... adel clamps. :D

    Photos comming soon...
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  18. dagwood

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    Glad I saw this thread. Weird timing...BOOTH of my mirrors broke within days of eachother. No reason they just broke at the ball socket at the base of the mirror itself.
    these mirros have seen some good hits from Branches and the Ground with no effect but to spin free in the clamp but out of the blue pop. odd...had to glue them with ABS cement to get by until I can get to ordering new mirrors... Now what to get. :scratch
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  19. meat popsicle

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    So I recieved the Dual Stars ($17 bucks each). I fiddled with the mounting for a bit. If you have fat bars ask for the bigger hose clamps right from the start. I just dumped the clamps right in my hardware can and used the hand guard clamps to hold the mirrors on; very clean looking. I first thought to use the brake/clutch reservoir clamps but they don't work.

    Here are the mirrors on the bike:

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    Here are the mountings. You need to unbolt the mirror from the bracket and put it on the other side to get it this way. I still want to fiddle with placement (slide back and forth to see the view change):

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    My first impression is that they show the space well for changing lanes, and in fact I have noticed that the vibration doesn't hinder viewing, maybe they have less "amplitude" so they don't blur so much. The vibe is a twitch (still clear if you know what I mean) but not a blur, even at highway speeds. Here is a few shots of the view (not so good on this camera) but you can compare with my one stock mirror.

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    The other side:

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    All in all they are pretty good for checking for lane changes, but they are small as Rad said AND they do not show what's directly behind you. This must be because of the angle, and maybe some sliding further out on the bars will help... but that is a limitation of these. Maybe they would be best as an accessory to the SXC mirrors that the Euros use (I would like to get some of these), for showing the blind spot (they do this exceedingly well). But I wonder how many damn accessories one needs. The finish seems fine; we will see about longevitity.

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  20. creeper

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    The look fine Meat, and it was a good idea to use the handguard clamps, but it's the same issue I ran into, great for off-road, and no tickets on the street... you just can't see shit behind you.

    My adel clamp on the roadbook holder idea is a bust... can't get them to tighten adequately to prevent movement, even with shims. :cry

    I'm about ready to put some 2" stick-ons on the inside of the handguards and get used to turning my head to see what the hell is gaining on me. :pissed

    Back in the '70s in Cal. we'd put a little iddy biddy "dental" mirror on our choppers to get past the law... never gave a shit about what was behind us... of course I got more tickets then than now. :lol3

    Fuckin' mirrors :dizave
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