Misinterpreted Headlight Modulator

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by paulcbrowne, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. khager

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    Hey if it would get all of the left lane assholes that permeate the U.S., to pull over and get the hell out of the way, I could put up with a little gravel.

    But no I don't have one, I have thought about it though, it would be good in one other instance besides the one mentioned above. People might mistake me for LEO while I am lane-splitting and tend to keep their doors shut and try not to pinch me off when I come up the middle.:D
  2. echo15

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    Actually, they do it all the time...
  3. Navy Chief

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    Not quite, they see everything, they just fail to process and recognize what everything is.
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    Why prove you wrong on this? Did anybody claim it was the law to flash your lights? Do you use your brakes to stop, because there's no law telling you to do that, you know. It would be perfectly legal to drag your feet until you stop.

    Yes, that's how stupid you sound.
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  6. Montague

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    We had that same issue up here in Ontario a year or two ago; cops gave a driver a ticket for warning other drivers of radar by flashing his lights.

    Judge threw it out.

    Nice to see the courts make sensible decisions once in a while.
  7. Isorg

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    :rofl
  8. Red9

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    Not my experience...

    But if you believe drivers are so bad and don't know the rules, why would you decide to throw in the modulator and create more confusion for them?:norton
    My experience has taught me that my chances of survival increase greatly when I take responsibility for my safety, not when I expect other drivers to be more aware.
  9. TrashCan

    TrashCan Scary Jerry

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    Amen!!!
  10. fast4d

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    I dont ride a gold wing (check my sig) but I have modulators on all my bikes.

    my high beam(s) dont flash, they dont actually go completely out then back on. they just vary in intensity but dont go full power

    if you want to be highly visible then you will end up irritating some people.

    thats why I dont keep them on. use them only when I am sharing lanes or I approach a business district with cars waiting to turn into my path. certain times when I am in the bowels of los angeles

    stopped at an intersection I would not have them on. I wont ride in the middle of tha lane following anothe vehicle either.

    it is a tool. turning it on doesnt repell stupid cagers.

    I have at least 100k miles with modulators and yet to have ONE cage come close to crossing my path.
  11. Auto-X Fil

    Auto-X Fil Been here awhile

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing

    If you've never interacted with other drivers by flashing headlights, you must really not pay any attention. It happens to me almost daily.

    Haven't you wondered why bikes and cars have a "flash to pass" feature, usually documented in the user manual?

    In PA, it's the law to flash before overtaking at night:

    Source: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=75&div=0&chpt=33

    Go back to driving school. You're quite ignorant.
  12. khager

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    Flashing your light at or near an intersection here in TX means you just gave up your right of way.

    Flashing at an oncoming car is to warn of a speedtrap.

    The law in PA is interesting, to flash before overtaking at night.
    Flashing to pass before overtaking here will get you at minimum an :fyyff, or possibly an attempted block! I don't give them any warning, I am going to make a pass.

    Oh and by the way you have to pass on the right here!
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    +1
  14. JimVonBaden

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    You did that too? What are the odds? :norton

    Coincidence? Maybe, but maybe they thought you were telling them to go?

    Jim :brow
  15. ktmdirtybiker

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    I haven't read all the posts here just a couple on every page i guess. If I recall what the OP said that the left turner thought
    he was flashed "GO AHEAD". Did he not see you approaching at all? Did he not see you sitting there with the lite flashing?
    My thought was he didn't even see you until he had all ready made his mind up to beat you across the intersection. If people don't look twice they will miss some very important parts. I drive an 18 wheeler for my day job and people can't see me, and I am 8.5 feet wide and 13.5 feet tall with daylight running lites. I think the cager saying they thought you were flashing them out is BS. They don't want to admit they screwed up. Doing anything to get them to see you will help protect you. If they only glance your way for a split second, any movement by a rider will hopefully trigger the brain to make them look a second time and maybe dwell on for a second or two longer.
    I expect the unexplainable, and prepare for the unexcuseable.
    As for flashing big trucks over at night, shut off headlights to flash us over, don't go up to high beams it just blinds us.
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    With the auto lights today, a lot of folks don't know how to turn their headlights off and on.
  17. genespleen

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    And yet it's never happened.

    Maybe it will, but I've been using a modulator for about 9 years now, and remain glad for it. It may simply be that the same cautious attitude that prompted me to install it also carries over into my riding. I certainly don't think installing a modulator equals relying *solely* on it. Assuming that it does, as some seem to do in this discussion, represents the classic false-choice logical fallacy. It's merely one of several tools and practices; what matters is how it's used.
  18. 1200gsceej

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    I learned good car-truck etiquette from my father in the 50's (you can do the computation). He let them in when they needed to merge, flashed his lights to tell them when they could move over, did not hide in their blind spots, paid attention to their momentum (approaching slow vehicles; their need to speed up before a hill, etc). He got paid back when he wanted to pass on 2 lane roads and the trucker, sitting up high, could see much farther ahead. I still think that most truckers are serious professionals, and if you ride like a serious motorcyclist, they can be your friends.
    -ceej
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    This isn't always applicable in the states, but since I have moved to Europe I have noticed that flashing to pass can be very helpful.

    Many of the roads (in Belgium at least) are very narrow and do not have lines in the middle or on the edges. As a result cars tend to drive more toward the middle of the road when there is no oncoming traffic. Flashing your headlights before you pass allows them to move to the side and make room for you to overtake them.