Moab Problems

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by Dread Pendragon, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    Five us rode around Moab over the last weekend.

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    Rob S. came along for the trip to Moab but didn't ride with us. He's become our official photographer and he's been the support truck crew on rides where we've needed that. I don't know if he's in any of these pictures since he took them all in camp, and the rest of us only took pictures when we're out on the trail.

    We're all currently from Cache Valley Utah. The new rider with our group was Todd, the owner of Motorsports Unleashed in Hyde Park, Utah (edited to add a link to his website). He let us use his trailer which was awesome, and we showed our appreciation by punching a hole in it's wall. (Note to self: next time we secure a bike we should securely secure it.)

    If you're going to Moab soon here's information you'll want to know.

    A. If you're planning on doing the White Rim Trail you've probably researched it and found that it is officially being reopened on Tuesday, the 29th of March. That will be awesome if that happens, but the park rangers who kicked Todd off the White Rim Trail for not having a street legal bike said that the cement they are using takes many days to set up, and people keep busting through the barrier and ruining it.

    Because of that the park ranger expressed some doubt that it would actually be opened on that day. So if you're plan is to go and ride the WRT after the 29th, be prepared with a plan "b" just in case.

    B. You'll get kicked off the WRT if you don't have a street-legal bike. They are there and they are checking. They fined Todd $75!
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  2. scarysharkface

    scarysharkface Imbecile

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    Yep, it's a road.

    Sucks that people can't stay off the cement long enough for it to setup. Makes all of us look bad.

    Can't wait to get out to Moab again!

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  3. Mil T

    Mil T Been here awhile

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    That's BS. If they add a little calcium chloride to the mix it will set up with in hours and no damage will take place. Besides what are they concreting? if is to hold rocks then it's not a structural piece and will probably get torn up anyway. Regular concrete should set up in 24 hours enough to drive on if it's between rocks and they can post a person out there to keep people off. Besides, if they are doing it during the week, how many people are really out there. They probably did it one time and decided to cry foul to off roaders.

    Your friend should have known better. No mercy here!! In fact that's what gives the rest of us, that ride legally, a bad name. THANKS ALOT!!

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    scarysharkface Imbecile

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    Waiting on the pics...

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  5. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    Mil T, you might consider changing your username to "No Mercy Here!!" I know many people over the years have ridden the trail with bikes that weren't street legal because they didn't always enforce the rule. Now they are, and our guy is paying for it. He wasn't leaving the trail to run down endangered lizards, and I'm posting it here for all to learn from our mistakes. I have no idea about the concrete stuff, I'm just passing on what I'm told.

    Anywho, I've been to busy to post so I'll stay up a little bit tonight and get some done.

    Last March we showed up around the same time and got a great camping spot at Goose Landing, the coveted close-by camping spot on the Colorado. I was hoping that by arriving on a Thursday afternoon we would again beat the crowds. There was a half-marathon that weekend, and maybe that's why there were no camping spots at Goose Landing. So we went to the south end of town and found a camping spot across the river from Potash Road (Potash Road is the route most motorcyclists take getting to the White Rim Trail).


    We got there with enough daylight that some of the guys wanted to go ride. I didn't really want to, in part because I knew there were going where a KLR really ought not go.


    Leaving camp
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    Greg went on his XR650L, but soon came back.
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    Something was amiss:
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    Cleaned up a bit:
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    Being a good friend I offered my help and expertise:

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    In the past we'd typically used JB Kwik Weld on such problems, but I had some Quicksteel with me and we thought it might work better. It worked great. Greg is engaged, and his bride-to-be is Rosie, so he engraved a big "R" on the Quicksteel before it hardened. Or . . . no, wait . . .

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    That's right, I remember now, it was a "G", which I'm sure stood for "Gee I love Rosie so much!" (Rosie, are you sure you really want to marry Mr. "It's-all-about-me"?)

    With the help of my supervision the quicksteel patch job worked perfectly. Soon the other guys came back to camp with intact bikes.


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  6. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    The next morning the plan was to ride through Arches National Park, then go do Hurrah Pass and maybe Chicken Corners.

    Getting ready:
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    "Behold, my Chinese Q-Link! Master of 200cc dual sport bikes that cost less than $2k!"
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    Todd sells the Chinese bikes at his business. He brought a half dozen of them because they're disposable. He actually used this one only for the photo, then threw it into the fire.


    Adventures first stop:
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    We'd hit that sandy wash in the middle of Arches last year and loved it, even on our heavy bikes. This year we again entered in on Willow Springs Road (or some road with "willow" in the title). That's a fun little ride for a few miles. Then we turned and rode up the wash. It was difficult last time I rode it on my KLR and it was again this time.

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    I was pretty worn out by the time we reached Tower Arch.
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    More evidence that Rosie should re-think the whole marriage thing:
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    I'm going to sleep. I'll try and post more tomorrow.
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  7. GB

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    Oh man, that looks like fun... good to see you solved the bike problem. :thumb
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  8. Unique Username

    Unique Username n00b

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    I think Greg broke his bike because he felt it was starting to NOT be about him...just sayin :norton. Like the report so far my friend, keep it comin!
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    I've been to Moab in the Jeep. Can't wait to go there with the bike. Looks like fun.

    John
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  10. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    If they work, here are some gps tracks with us entering in to Arches from the west, then traveling up the sandy wash, then looping out through the regular road.

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  11. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    I'd mentioned in our last Tour of Idaho thread that Greg looks a lot like Jason Statham.
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    I couldn't help but notice that Todd looks amazingly similar to Daniel Craig:
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    Well, now that I'm thinking about it, the other guys resemble celebrities as well.









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    Me? Well I think it's quite obvious, but since you ask:











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  12. Mike955i

    Mike955i Future Escapee

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    Nice start, cant wait to see how this develops (esp. as I'm planning a Moab trip for next month). :lurk
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    :thumb

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  14. Katoom119

    Katoom119 Mmmm....Orange Kool-aid

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    Met you all a few years ago on that same trail, only in a white rental Jeep. Thanks for the report, can hardly wait to get back out there. :thumb
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  15. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    Greg and I told the others how we met you and you guys ran across a bobcat chasing a rabbit.




    The guys who were riding the lighter bikes did some rides that Greg and I didn't, so I'll leave it up to them to post pictures and tell the story.
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  16. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    Here's a little more from Arches.

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    When Greg wrestled his XR650L through the sand in Arches he strained his back, which was injured in Afghanistan. He decided to hang out in camp with Rob. The rest of us went ahead up to the top of Hurrah Pass.

    Hurrah Pass = typical Moab awesomeness. We didn't go down the other side, nor on to Chicken Corners. The other three guys were thinking that it would be fun to go back a few miles and head down Kane Creek. We had been talking about going to see Battle LA in Moab that night. Sigfried, Roy and Daniel Craig said they'd rather ride until dark. Kane Creek didn't seem like KLR territory, and I wanted to see that movie, so we parted ways there. (Hopefully one of them will post some info on that ride, it looked like it would be fun . . . if you weren't riding a KLR.)

    Greg, Ahmadinejad and I decided to go to the movie. It was pretty good, but especially the beginning had some realistic war chaos and trauma.

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    I wondered if the two veterans would be less than thrilled about watching it. They started shouting "They drew first blood!", but by the next day everyone was feeling better.

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    Dread Pendragon Don't look back

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    Thursday we went in and ate at Pasta Jays. The food was great. Ryan anguished at length over the choices available. Our waitress was fun and covered with tattoos of trees. Her "tree of life" tattoo was really cool.

    Friday night we ate at Zax Pizza. All you can eat of the funkiest pizza in Moab. There was baked potato pizza that was good, but my favorite was the Portabella mushroom pizza. We ate 'til we were sick.

    The next day we got a slow start. We were leaving Moab that evening, so we packed up camp.

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    We ate at Denny's (we always do in Moab), then left the truck (and Rob S.) in the parking lot there as we headed off for the White Rim Trail.

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    So he thought he'd try his luck at his unlicensed YZ 450 (I think that's what his bike is). We had a problem right away. There was a half-marathon in process and we were going to pass right by officers on the road directing traffic. As we drove by Greg was in back, and he heard an officer comment on Todd not having a license plate.

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  18. Sportakus

    Sportakus Been here awhile

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    Great job friend...:clap
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    Todd's bike didn't hold much gas and Ryan's bike might run low, especially if we had any unforseen detours. Since I have that Denali rack on my bike I volunteered to haul a couple of gallons (Todd put some in old antifreeze bottles). I was a little worried about the fact that one of the containers would be inches from my exhaust, so I created a little heat shield when I was at Maverick filling up on gas.

    One of the ladies who works at Maverick was in the back in the little bakery area. I got her to give me one of the foil containers they put french bread in. I cut it open and taped it on to a piece of cardboard I got out of their dumpster. Wa-la, one heat shield.

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    It's a pleasant 15 plus miles until you hit the dirt--if you're on a KLR--and it was a fun ride into the park. We stopped before we got into the park where everyone does.



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    When you enter into Canyonlands via Potash Road you'll pass a sign telling you what the fees are, but there isn't any way to pay.

    We made our way in, but just before we got to Musselman's Arch there were some park rangers who stopped us. They were not friendly. Todd of course didn't have a street legal bike, plus he didn't bring his license. One of the rangers told us to make ourselves comfortable because we were going to be there a while. He also kept arguing with us that there was a place to pay where we came in. (Hmm, maybe he meant up a bit farther when we turned onto the road that goes around the White Rim Trail. We argued with him, though, because where the fee sign was there was no place to pay or get a permit.)

    Greg started talking with the other ranger about his sidearm. That guy eventually relaxed and quit acting hostile toward us. (They weren't jerks, they were just doing their job.) They gave Todd a ticket.

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    We could have gone on without Todd, but we decided to leave with him. Greg's back was still hurting and due to dust storms that started up when we were stopped with the rangers I started to develop really bad allergies and was feeling extremely fatigued.

    We decided to ride back to Poison Spider. I would go back in to town and get Rob S. and the truck, drive out there and we'd load everyone up. While I was gone Rob D., Todd and Ryan were going to ride some of Poison Spider.


    I found Rob S. and we started driving back. We stopped when we saw Greg's bike at the side of the road. He was looking at some native american art that is very, very old. Rob S. took some pictures of it.

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    And I have no idea with this is, but it has feet.
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    Even though we didn't get anywhere on the White Rim Trail that day, it was still late afternoon by the time we were loading up to head home.

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    It's just six short hours home, so Greg and I really wanted to get home that night. We stopped and at a Chinese buffet somewhere around Price, Utah, and rode the rest of the way home in snow and rain. Uneventful. We had a good time in Moab despite the glitches.
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