MOD F800/F700/F650 (twin) GS skid plate and top rack

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  1. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    That is a really good idea! Thanks! :wave

    I'm going to look at that.

    I was paying attention to the fact the you could get underneath the plate when it is installed to swap mounting positions but it's still a bit of a pain that way without the right tool for the job.

    Thanks superhawkrider!
    I do believe the current skid plate will fit the Adventure Spec bars however the next version should be compatible with Holans as well.

    Dave
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  2. WoodWorks

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    This setup looks really great Dave. I wonder if you know anyone nearby who has the removable SW-Motech racks mounted on an F800GS (see mine below). They leave quite a large gap between the tank and the right pannier, and I'd be eager to see if the Rotopax can, if hanging from your rear plate, might be able to fit in between.

    I've got the Touratech plate now, and I've kludged a Rotopax mount to it. But I'd prefer your setup if I could fit a Rotopax down low and behind my Caribou bag.

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    Oh, and let me add my +1 to Motoriley's "big middle hole for easy plate removal" idea. :thumb

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  3. toowheels

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    Hey WoodWorks (David) Thanks!

    ...so that's +2 on the Motoriley's bmhfepr idea.

    I'm lookin' at your setup there and I see a strut just in front of the turn signal. That looks like it is right in the way...I think. It's the Quick-Lock rack you have right? Did you relocate the turn signal like the pic on Twisted Throttle? Either way using the turn signal as a reference it looks like it won't fit.

    In any case I think you may be better off making the Rotopax bracket fit to the inside of your rack...or even as I have seen some pics show mounting the bracket right to the inside of your Caribou case...

    I do like Oregon though...and I'm always up for a ride. :wave

    Dave
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  4. robhar54

    robhar54 Been here awhile

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    Hey Dave,

    This rack is an intriguing solution. Stacking a couple one gallon tanks on top, maybe one for water and one for gas, would be sweet. I could also see using one of these bladders from Liquid Containment in Oz on this rack:

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    They do custom designs as well, so it may be possible to get one fabbed up that would precisely fit any rack or pannier top.

    But on to the above photo...

    I like the idea of getting the weight lower. Are you using the stock Rotopax L-bracket here? What keeps it from flexing laterally, say, if you went down on the right side? I'm assuming it's held only by the two bolts. Maybe there's enough flex in the rack itself to absorb a hit from the side? Suppose you had a pannier rack system, are the attachment points on the L-bracket slotted to allow you to adjust the bracket in or out to rest on the pannier brackets?

    Thanks.
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  5. toowheels

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    Hi robhar and thanks! :nod

    You can definitely stack them. Rotopax has a storage container version now too.

    I saw those liquid bladders recently here and they look like a neat option.

    The stock Rotopax DLX L bracket is being used. There is also a lighter gauge version that comes with the Rotopax 1gal. when you order them together. It is 12 gauge instead of the 8 gauge of the DLX L bracket.

    There is some lateral flex in the system. At this point there is no extra support. It is all being tested by the "MOD Squad" now. :ricky Crash damage?...don't know yet. Although the whole setup doesn't stick out as far the passenger pegs so that will offer some protection in a tip over and the flex in the system should give it some resilience.

    The L bracket does have some slotted holes. In the pic you show above the L bracket is actually held on by five bolts. There is even an option with the slotted holes to have the Rotopax "angle in" at the tail making it even a little lower profile.
    In the pic below it is held on by two bolts and then sits against the BMW Aluminum box rack.

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    More pics of the setup above here;
    http://www.motooverland.com/index_files/Page508.htm

    I would actually like to see which other side racks this configuration will work with. Between the slots in the L bracket and the five holes in our Top Rack there are a few options.

    Dave
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  6. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    This is the other top position on the MOD F800 GS top rack that I haven't really shown or talked about yet.

    I'm not really sure if I like it that much. The original idea was that if you were running side boxes and a top roll bag it would give a position closer to the middle of the bike rather than laying it flat on the rack further back. The roll bag has lots of room to sit behind it. Is it a better position?...I'm not sure. I have seen a couple of pics here where people have wedged the Rotopax between roll bags on a top rack so this is sort of like that.

    I think the biggest problem I have with it is that the Rotopax L bracket has the height for horizontal or vertical mounting of the Rotopax, so it sits a about 3.5" higher than it needs to when it is horizontal. Perhaps if we made our own shorter L bracket this position would work better.

    What do you all think? :ear

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    This pic has the top rack in the forward position.

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    In this pic the top rack is in the rearward position.
    Of course the Rotopax mount can be put on either side of the L bracket for running two up too.

    One of the great things about this top rack is that there is a ton of options between fore and aft positions, three Rotopax mounting options...and there is more to come too.

    Thanks,

    Dave
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  7. Motoriley

    Motoriley Even my posing is virtual

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    I think it would be fine if the mount was lower. Make your own mount with the option of mounting the Rotopax facing either way. Then offer a backrest option on the front and you would have a winner.


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  8. Motoriley

    Motoriley Even my posing is virtual

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    From the photo it looks like you could just drill lower mounting holes in the L bracket.


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  9. toowheels

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    Hey Motoriley,

    Yes you could easily just drill a lower set of holes in the L bracket. You would be left with about 1.5" of the bracket exposed over the top which could also be removed fairly easily. That would make it look (and work) much better.

    As the bracket sits now you can put the mount on either side so those options are already there.:nod Then there is the second set of horizontal holes still left over too.

    Dave
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  10. Gregarious

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    If it's not too late to make a suggestion: pre-drill 4 holes to accomodate a Givi mount kit. These mounts can be used on Happy Trails and SW-Motech racks for optional Givi side cases. The bottom lugs are the same ones used by Caribou cases as well.

    For those of us that also use Givi top boxes for on-road touring, commuting, errand running etc., this would be super convenient addition to a top rack. Screw on 4 bolts in 1 minute and you can mount your Givi top case. Going for an off-road adventure? Pull off the mounts and strap your soft luggage on this new top rack.

    I'm currently using an SW-Motech top-rack that has a quick-release Givi compatible mounting plate , which works OK for the Givi, but their top rack isn't that swell for larger soft luggage.

    All my previous dual-sports (KLR650, DRZ400, KTM640) have done some sort of commuting duty and on each one I've rigged up some kind of Givi top-mount. The SW Motech has the right idea, but their top rack isn't as nice as your's promises to be.

    Just a thought...

    Givi Lug Kit:
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    SW Motech Givi Plate:
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    SW-Motech side rack with Caribou Cases mounts (bottom ones are the same for Givi):
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  11. robhar54

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    Great idea. With both my Gran Canyon and Multistrada I found a Givi 46L topcase would handle all my on-road touring, local commuting and errand-running duties, and be slim besides, where lane-splitting is legal or garages are narrow. The preferred setup in Europe, as far as I could tell.

    Not applicable for off-road use, but with the slotted mounting previously suggested (another great idea!), it'd be a snap to change out.

    I'd like to see the cut-out of the "M" disappear. The teeth look sharp. I could see that cutting into the bottom of a bag, or gas or water bladder, carried there.

    Rob in Seattle
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  12. Motoriley

    Motoriley Even my posing is virtual

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    That is an awesome idea. I would love to able to quickly convert to a Givi set up. You could just leave the lugs in place when using the rack for a duffle.
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  13. sturgeon

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    I've been toying with the idea of using this SW-Motech adapter with my G-IT rack. Only problem I can see is that the latter is not as thick as the former, so it might be a problem to tap the rack for the cam-locks for the quick-release fasteners. Maybe your idea of just using the lugs and the catch is better. I didn't know you could get those separately.
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  14. robhar54

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    You'd need the four rubber bumpers as well. They snug up the top case as it locks down and in, and prevent rattling.

    Rob in Seattle
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  15. sturgeon

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    Right you are (I've had Givi top boxes in the past, but always on a 'real' Givi mount). I'd forgotten about those bumpers, thanks! :thumb
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  16. Motoriley

    Motoriley Even my posing is virtual

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    My last Givi rattled on the factory mount so I just bought thicker bumpers at home Depot.


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  17. toowheels

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    WOW! You guys are good! Do you have spy's up here? :huh

    I wasn't quite ready to let that cat out of the bag yet...

    Below is the Givi mounts on the prototype MOD F800 GS top rack.

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    It's not quite perfect though. It sits just a little too far forward encroaching on the passenger's space. You don't need the rubber on the front of the top rack as it is already a tight fit with the width of the rack. You may need two at the rear though...
    It's difficult trying to make all the different elements work together.
    It is perfect solo and you can still slide the rack forward. I am not done yet though...

    All those rectangular slots are there for a reason too...:wink:



    Below is the big pic with a Givi E36 mounted on the top rack and the keen eye will notice the first prototype of the MOD F800 GS skid plate designed to work with more engine bars.

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    The second prototype of the plate will be done shortly.

    So far it fits SW Motech, BMW, Givi and Touratech bars for sure.

    I am still looking for someone with Holan's to confirm the fit with those. It looks like it will fit.

    All of the Motooverland goods will be on display at the Vancouver Motorcycle Show, Jan 21-24th booth #908. There's a link on the site;
    www.motooverland.com

    I look forward to seeing some of you there.

    Anyone from Seattle coming up...it's sooo close.

    Thanks for all the feedback so far!

    Dave
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  18. Zacharia_11

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    Cariboo/Pelican Compatibility? :ear
    That'd be slick.

    From Pelican Website:
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  19. toowheels

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    Yip! Particularly in that case where you can put the mounts where ever you want in the box, as opposed to Givi's boxes which like I mentioned will run a little too far forward for two up riding in the current set up.

    Below are the first quick pics of the second prototype MOD F800 GS skid plate. It's slimmer, a little taller in the front and fits with Touratech, BMW, Givi and SW Motech bars so far. I still have to and want to confirm on others.

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    What do you all think? :ear

    Anyone out there in the the Vancouver, BC area with some Holan's or other bars that I can try the plate with?

    Thanks.
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  20. Gregarious

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    Just getting back to this thread..
    No, no spies, but it just makes sense, doesn't it!? And I bet it'd be easy for someone to add a few hose-clamp-type-thingies and make this same rack work on just about any tubular rear rack. I would've loved this same setup on my old 640 Adventure. But don't get distracted too much by non-F800GSs until the first batch goes to production! :1drink
    This looks really promising. Now it'll be hard to sell my SW Motech rack when this becomes available. Excellent work!
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