Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia

Discussion in 'EMEA' started by chrisf, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. chrisf

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    I rode down to Croatia last year and loved it, broke down on the Bosnian border and had to cut the trip a little short then but made it home fine.

    I really want to see more of Croatia this year but also want to go across to Bulgaria and Romania, I really don't fancy riding to the bottom of Croatia just to turn around and head back up again but have had conflicting advice on the best way to cross over to Bulgaria.

    I've been told Serbia is a no go? Same for crossing the whole of Bosnia/Herzegovina?

    Montenegro-Albania-Macedonia looks do able but I'm told insurance is an issue?

    What have you done and what would you reccomend?
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  2. Don T

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    No Balkan country is a no go.
    When entering Macedonia you need to sign an insurance at the border - cheap and not a problem. The rest of the countries are most likely covered by the "green" insurance card provided by your own insurance company.

    Among other visits to the area, I did this trip back in 2014.
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  3. young1

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    I was there 2 years ago, I had green card insurance. Only place I had to buy insurance was Kosovo, it is purchased at the border (I crossed from Macedonia). My route went Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Croatia, Bosnia, Croatia and then Hungry etc. A link to my blog is in my footer. Happy to answer any questions. Roads in Montenegro were amazing!

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  4. cca

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    Enjoy your trip. You will not regret.
    About insurance..., you will need "green card" issued from your insurance company. It is best solution. If you don't have it, you will have to buy insurance on the borders. Usually 10-15 euros, except Macedonia where it will cost you 50 euros.
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  5. skuprider

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    Just to confirm. Insurance for Bosnia and Macedonia is available at the border? I have one of our inmates who sells for Europe but is not available for these other countries. What documents are needed since I will have a US registered bike?
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  6. Mark Manley

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    I went that way last year and insurance is available at all borders where you are not covered by a European green card, I do not see that a US registered bike will be a problem, you will need the regisration document. I was travelling with an American friend and she was stamped straight into all of these countries, the only problem we had was trying to cross from Kosovo into a Serbian enclave we thought was Montenegro and they wouldn't let us in because of the Kosavan stamps in our passports so we had a 60km diversion, do not go to Kosovo then try to get into Serbia with the same document, they won't let you in but you can do it the other way around.
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  7. skuprider

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    So she had a US registered bike? Great I was worried about insurance since I only have green card for Europe.
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  8. Mark Manley

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    No we were on my UK registered bike but it was available to anyone, my comment about travelling with an American related to no visas being required for any country in the region except Turkey if you are going that far.
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  9. skuprider

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    OK thanks. Just concerned if the rules are different for a non EU registered bike. It does not seem it would matter. Not going down to Turkey.
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  10. Frgich

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    Just for the sake of info for the others too. Since last year smaller border crossing in the Balkan countries very often don't offer an option of buying a border insurance policy (cutting costs probably is the reason). So aim for bigger crossings like we spoke over private messages).

    You just arrive at the border and buy the policy with the papers you have (vehicle title). Sometimes price is hiked sometimes it stays low, it varies and that's the way it is. Sometimes is computer printed (Albania), and sometimes hand written like Bosnia (hence the price alterations).

    Cheers
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  11. skuprider

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    Oh that's great. Seems easy enough.
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  12. young1

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    I was on a New Zealand registered bike, that made it interesting at some borders for the border people
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  13. Frgich

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    Hi Michael & Leanne, believe all is good with both of you, sending warmest regards from Lobagola to New Plymouth :clap

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  14. lhendrik

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    In 2012 I went to Kosovo (Prishtina) and then tried to enter Serbia on my way to Bulgaria and then Turkey. I was stopped at the border of Serbia and politely told I could not enter because I had visited Kosovo. I had to reverse and go South to Macedonia. The nice (large/armed) border guard explained it was all due to politics. I later read up on the bitterness between Serbia and Kosovo. I don't know if this still applies, but you should find out first if it applies, and plan to enter Serbia from another country than the not-recognized Kosovo.
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    Hi Dooby, great to hear from you. It was 2 years ago tomorrow (24th) that I was in Zagreb. Can't wait to go back but this time with my wife.

    How are you?

    To everyone out there if you are looking for a great place to stay in Zagreb, Dooby is your man
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  16. Mark Manley

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    Yes it does, if you want to visit Kosovo and Serbia go to Serbia first.
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  17. Frgich

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    All good thanks for asking, and Leanne is more than welcomed to tour the coastline, especially Peljesac peninsula ;)

    Thanks for your support !

    Cheers
    Dooby
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  18. MJS

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    As Dooby says, plan your border crossing points. We were turned back a few weeks ago trying to get into Bosnia at one of the smaller crossings.
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  19. pibyk

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    Serbia considers Kosovo to be part of Serbia and does not recognize this as an independent country, so if you enter Kosovo from Serbia then it is ok with them, as from their perspective you are going to one of their provinces after entering Serbia legally, but if you enter Kosovo from other country than Serbia then they consider this as an illegal entry into Serbia. So if you enter Kosovo from Macedonia, Montenegro or Albania then you will not be allowed to enter Serbia. All those countries are perfectly safe, although caution is advised while traveling in regions of Macedonia bordering Kosovo (in 2015 there were some violent and armed clashes between Albanians and local cops) and in Kosovo proper (which in my opinion is the most risky as far as the safety goes). In Bosnia-Herzegovina there are still unexploded ordnances (UXO, mines) in some places. ~3% of the country area is still affected, so riding off the beaten track requires high level of caution but normal roads are perfectly safe. UXO affected areas are usually well marked.
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  20. computer_freak

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    Thanks for all the information. I'm considering going to the Balkan area and this is very useful.

    Something I'd like to add is that both TomTom and Garmin don't have 100% map coverage in this area.
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