Most common ADV bike

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by jtw000, Aug 9, 2012.

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What bike do you use hard for ADV travel

  1. BMW Single

  2. BMW Boxer

  3. KTM Adventure

  4. KTM Single

  5. Suzuki Strom

  6. Other single

  7. Big Jap V-twin

  8. Hardcore Enduro

  9. Old School

  10. Other

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  1. jtw000

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    There seems to be wide assortment of bikes out there on the roads, beside the roads on fire and in garages having bits replaced under warranty. Certainly there's no perfect bike but is there a most common bike? Accepted wisdom suggests the BMW 650single is the most obvious weapon of choice for the vast majority or adventure travellers, certainly I see them most often but is that because everyone is riding KTMs and I can't keep up?
    So just curious and just for fun, here's a poll to add the beast you ride out when you ride out.
    So I'll start. I use a BMW G650x as my main ride. Awesome little bike and I love her to bits. She's light, nimble, reliable, robust and economical but it's a flawed design. The weak rear subframe means luggage is a pain and the tiny fuel tank means that a lot of planning is needed. With the benefit of experience I could handle a larger, more comfortable bike for almost all terrain and enjoy arriving without my arse having a bruised outline of my tiny seat stamped in it. I wouldn't changer her now but i might have been better served with a BMW Dakar. So what's yours and what did you think of it?

    Sorry for the lack of choice on the poll, numbers were limited and I wanted a wide net.
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  2. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    BMW (non-boxer) Twin, F800GS. I put it in the 'other' category.
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  3. jtw000

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    I don't know how i forgot this... I even had one myself. I tried to change the KTM single to parallel twin but it wouldn't let me edit. I mean, who in their right mind goes travelling on a KTM single, right?
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  4. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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  5. sloweddy

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    You might want to redo your poll if you can.

    I think the KLR650 might be the most common ADV bike, but your poll would group it and the DR650 into "other single".

    Also you may want to rethink your use of the word "jap bike" unless you are talking about JA Prestwich Industries who made J.A.P. engines that went into many fine motorcycles.

    According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap) :
    "Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive. In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term controversial or offensive, even when used as an abbreviation.[1] In the past, Jap was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory.[2]"
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  6. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I agree. There's a KLR behind every dumpster, and the bike has a 25 year production history. It may be numerically the most significant ADV bike ever. It certainly deserves its own spot in the poll.
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  7. Foot dragger

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    Not real sure about the BMW650 single being the most common,I never see em around anywhere.
    DR's and KLR's are about the cheapest full size rig going,I bet they are pretty close to the top,but they're not on your list.

    DRZ's are also as common as dirt,cheap and dont die easily. Also not on the list.
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  8. bwbeck

    bwbeck Been here awhile

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    KLR650 here! :norton
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  9. Foot dragger

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    It depends on how far and where your traveling,there are a lot of KTM shops around now a days,traveling from shop to shop swapping valves and pistons along the way can be character building.
    The Lc4's are the only ones that really blow their guts all over the roadside with no warning,usually.
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  10. jules083

    jules083 Long timer

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    XR650R for me, because that's the bike I have. I clicked on 'hardcore endure', seemed the most fitting.

    Here's the million dollar question that's been discussed, beat to death, discussed some more, and argued over since I joined this site: What do you consider an 'adventure' trip, and how do you purchase an appropriate motorcycle for YOUR adventures?

    Personally, I consider this to be a trip where you can ride wherever you want without the bike being a limiting factor. Using those criteria I would probably chose a KLR, basically because it's a cheap, rugged, proven design. However, if and when a KLR is loaded for a cross country adventure trip it becomes overweight and less agile, one farkle at a time. Passanger isn't going to happen, at least not on a long one with a lot of single track.

    Now, if you were to decide that true off-road ability is worth trading off for some highway manners, you are going to lean more to the GS-something, 990 adventure, Wee-strom, etc. You could go farther in the trade off and get a street bike, like some of the Ninja conversions and the like. It doesn't take much off-road ability to ride on gravel.

    You could trade off the other way, and get a proper enduro. I read a ride report a few months ago where a guy went most of the way across the country on a DR350, and if he'd done the paperwork he actually did a SS1000 on it. Obviously it's possible, and apparently he did quite well on that trip.

    Best, who knows. Most common, guess we're going to find out.
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  11. perterra

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    KLR is probably the most common. I cant remember the last time I saw a F650 on the road so who's accepted wisdom?.
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  12. DAKEZ

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    I have a Big Jap other and a Big Jap other single. :1drink
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  13. MotorCade

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    Elefant - old school hardcore enduro other?

    This poll is rigged! :lol3
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  14. klaviator

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    Yes, this poll is pretty flawed and reveals the ignorance of the OP. I have a KLR650, and an XT350. KLR650s are by far the most numerous single model ADV bike out there.

    Also, what constitutes and ADV bike? I ride all of my bikes off road although they are not all considered dual sport or adventure bikes

    Doesn't the OP know that "jap" bikes should be referred to as "rice burners"?

    And how about Harleys. You have heard of the Harley Dirtster right?
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  15. RxZ

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    What about the Honda Cub and its variants? Can you even imagine the adventures those things have seen over the years?!? Of course, its been in production as long or longer than I have (30 years), and it is the #1 motorcycle in the world, of all time.

    That said, I do not have one, and probably wouldn't buy one :deal
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  16. Offcamber

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    I figured KLR650 would be at the top....

    Lime green (Kermit) '06 here:freaky
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  17. windmill

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    I have owned 8 off pavement capable bikes. The Ducati E900 saw the least dirt, too big, fragile, and expensive to risk damaging. The Honda XL250, and the Ural Patrol I have now are probably tied for doing the most "adventure" riding.

    The biggest lesson I learned is that real world usability trumps supposedly technical superiority.
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  18. MotorCade

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    Fragile? Expensive, maybe when new. Now, not so bad. But fragile? Nothing a set of crash bars won't fix. Motor is reliable, mods are easy, and there's nothing that can't be fabricated. The only thing I REALLY worry about breaking is the tank. Good luck finding that. As for the big part - well yeah, but still smaller than a lot of the new stuff. I'm a big guy so I throw it around alright. :freaky

    I ride one or the other of my pair of Elefants daily.
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  19. jtw000

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    No guys, the KLR is rare outside of the US so it seemed obvious to just dump it in with other Jap 650s. In fact around Europe and the Middle East the DR and XR are far more common but still not widely used. The BMW 650 is a bike i've encountered fairly frequently as well as the Tenere 660, a bike not available in the US at all but I've met three on the road, two in India, one in Thailand. I encountered two DRs in Pakistan and Iran and heard of several XRs but didn't get to meet the riders. I never heard of a KLR around me while scouring the forums because they're really not very popular. I owned one and in my opinion... they're not very good.
    I didn't ignore the Honda C90, friend of mine rode one from Malaysia to England but that's rare enough to be dumped in with "others". I really regret not putting the BMW parallel twin on it's own.
    As for "jap", I'm a "brit" and nobody on the road finds any of this offensive, not yanks, aussies, kiwis, japs, farrangs or any of the other stuff you hear daily in a large ex-pat community. It's political correctness gone mad. Most decent people have no problem with where they're from and those that do are really not worth my time, i find.
    Interesting to see what's common on this site though, predominantly US biased. Next year I'm planning a trip over South America and I'm planning to source bikes on arrival. I'm thinking KLR from the point of view of boring reliability and parts availability. I just wish it went a bit faster!!!
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  20. perterra

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    So KLR's are rare in Australia, South America and Asia?
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