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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.
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Great thread. Lots of solid advice. I always rode dirtbikes and I'm comfortable on the trail but road riding sketches me out sometimes people are just way too unpredictable.
Another important noob thing to know is that a lot of the stuff people tell you is not true.
Riding a bike is like having a stable of thoroughbreds ... get in the habit of 'stabling' your bike .... a quick clean, a check over and a chain lube (if ya have a chain and not shaft or belt drive) ... It's akin to rubbing the horse down and grooming / feeding at the end of the day ... then all that needs to be done is a tyre check in the morning before you head out for your ride
It just takes time to get used to it. I love riding around the city and exploring neighborhoods.
It can often seem like people are unpredictable. I would say however that it is very predictable that some people will do something unpredictable. Expect the unexpected. Learn to find those people while you're riding and keep them in your personal radar.
When I'm riding down the street my #1 thing is that I'm enjoying the ride. Riding a motorcycle is fun first and foremost. But I always have my little personal radar going: The guy is front of me is talking on the cell phone, the teenager is looking at her latest text message, the person behind me seems to be in a rush and is tail gating.
Try hard to not let yourself be surprised. Recognize the warning signs and make an intervention. Make sure that things you do to ride the bike: starting, braking, accelerating, etc. are completely automatic. That way you have your full attention to devote to what's going on around you and enjoying that ride down the boulevard.
I'm not one to post and complain about crazy cagers and stupid drivers. As soon as I start doing that I'll back out of the driveway one morning into the path of my neighbor on his Goldwing. I've certainly pulled a bone-headed move or two.
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I don't know where I picked it up, but I don't have to be trained on what's behind me.
I guess it was all those years of working on a road and having rule #1 drilled into me. NEVER, Never ever ever turn your back to traffic...
But then I moved here and it's like all the rules one should know, are thrown right out the window with the "I'll just hire a lawyer" mentality.
I've never seen or thought ppl could do and get away with the things they do here till I saw it with my own two eyes... Man, the stories I could tell.
Bottom line, keep your head moving "Head on a gimbal" and never ever ever assume someone will be looking out for you.
After all, to them that's what lawyers are for.
EDIT: And oh, if I was Mr. Limp Dick Ford Ranger man, I'da assumed a protective position with my truck as a buffer, before the biker...
Thata way, if an errant car was to come it'd hit my truck instead. Fkn people
bikes don't stop quickly in the rain
I would say riding dirt bikes helped me to learn how to control the bike in squiffy situations. Dirt bike classes are available. As far as street riding goes wear your gear, and assume the car and truck drivers don't see you. Watch for tire rotation at cross street stopped autos. Nothing beats a full face helmet. hope this helps.
Turn off your blinker already...
If I had a nickel for every time I've seen it or done it, well, I'd have me a second bike.
Seriously, it's just asking for a cage to pull out of that McDonald's right in front of you.
After a long (25 year) hiatus from riding I felt almost like a noob when I got back in the saddle. I come here on most days and read much more than I post. After reading I try to remember and apply something that I read here that made sense. It has helped me in getting back in the groove with riding. It's amazing how good it feels, like being resurrected!
Thanks to all of you!
He should have seen it coming and escaped. Mirrors are there for more than lane changes.
amazing how "doh de-doh, I'm cruising along at 45 and now have to make a quick-stop... And I don't care about what's behind me" has escaped the mental grasp of common sense in most ppl these days...
But alas. It's prolly just a product of our over litigious "I'll just get a lawyer and sue yer ass" mentality we all can be so thankful for today.
The 1st day I ever worked on a road my foremen only had to tell me once, never turn your back to traffic.
and that, IMO applies to both working it and using it for transpo.
Bottom, common sense, line... You can't sue shit if yer dead.
When I bought my DR650 I didn't even ride it before adding the extenders. The mirrors the way they come from the factory are useless. Fortunately there is a guy in Boise that understands this and put a set of extenders in the mail to me and said "just send me a check when you can"
I check my six often as I like to know what is going on back there... And any time I even roll off the throttle I flash my brake lights and move laterally to help those behind to wake up.
Hind sight's always 50/50...
Well, to me anyways.
X2 on the dot-dot-dot... dash-dash-dash... wake the f$%k up brake light blinks.
I even use the racers hold your hand up means caution thing, but I'm prolly the only one in eye shot that knows WTF that means.
Even had to do it in the middle of shifts... Glad I know how to do that (clutchless shifting. up and down). It comes in handy.
I do apologize if this advice has already been posted by I don't want to read through 52 pages of posts because I know that I'll get sidetracked and, once I reach the end of the replies, forget what I was going to write in the first place
I've only been riding a bit more than four years but I've put a couple of miles on my bike (over 34k) so here it goes...When you're on the road and there is more than one car a head of you, don't focus on the car your behind. Focus on about the third car in front of you! At first it might seem a bit weird but once you get used to it it'll be second nature. Here's the reasoning behind it...
When you're on the road and you're only focusing on the car in front of you, you are trusting that the driver will be able to stop in time or that he/she won't swerve. If, for some reason, something just happened a head of you and all the drivers are slamming on their brakes, it's possible that the car in front of you won't stand on his brakes soon enough and rear-end the car a head of him...meaning that you have even less distance to come to a complete stop before hitting the car.
If the you're focusing on the car in front of you and that car swerves in order to avoid hitting an obstacle in the road this might not leave you with enough time to either stop or swerve.
Soooo...if you focus your main attention on the third car a head of you, you'll know what's going on farther down the road, allowing you to start slowing down as soon as you see that third car's brake lights flash (at which point the car in front of you still has no clue).
Hope you were able to follow my logic. I'm really good at explaining things to people but if I have to write it down...yea...about that
You should be looking at ALL of the cars in front of you. If somebody slams on their brakes 10 cars ahead of you on the freewaythen you've got a lot more time to be prepared for when the chain reaction gets to you.
This goes for driving a cage too and is hopefully still taught in driver's ed.
lets see.... My advise to a n00b...
Keep your eyes moving.
Practice panic stops. B/c you don't want to do like me trying to figure that out when a light changes fast.
If you're a city rider, I'd say forget the iPod and focus on riding. Spending about 50/50 front and rear sight-line and this means MIRRORS... And good ones... Bigger than a postage stamp too. Fawking ascetics are out the window as far as I'm concerned when it come to SURVIVAL! This just in, cagers love distractions.
Viability... IMO, get some as this, conrary to popular belief has TWO effects. One, you're new and need to give a driver all the decision time you can get when you pull out in front of them and shift into the wrong gear...
And two, IF you get involved in a collision, the officer will be asking the cager how did you hit a guy wearing a neon jacket or onezee?
Parking lots or school parking lots... Find one and spend all day practicing. You need to know and master your transitions BEFORE you're doing it competing with 4,000lbs of rolling steel and glass.
Riding a bike for the 1st time is a HARD task... You've got 5 limbs controlling 4 vital tasks to keeping the thing even upright.
Ride faster. IMO, get away from cars and trucks that can side swipe you as you're the last thing in their feeble little minds. Drivers here don't even use a signal so using a mirror isnt that hard to assume isnt the only thing they don't know how to work.
The less time you spend in the area or blindspot, the better off you'll be as an old saying is, Two solids can NOT occupy the same space.
The reason why I feel a motorcycle should LEGALLY be able to "speed".
DO NOT pass on the right. In Merica we drive on the left side leaving a large blindspot on the right hand side beside a B pillar... Just don't go there and by odds you won't be a small object in a small blindspot.
The reason I feel passing on the RIGHT should be ILLEGAL! And keep right or GTFOOTW should be a damn law!