Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. LittleRedToyota

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    do not try to be fast. try to be smooth. speed will then come naturally.

    slow is smooth. smooth is fast.

    looking ahead is key. you have to learn to do that before worrying about going fast. once you get good at it, you'll find that your perceived field of vision widens so you can still see stuff closer to you even though you are looking further ahead.

    for now, slow down and concentrate on looking ahead and riding smoothly. then speed will gradually come naturally.

    not really. i ride well within my limits, so i have a margin for error if i hit road debris. also, i ride dirt a lot, so road debris is not a big deal to me...i don't really care if my bike slides a bit--i'm used to it. it also helps that i ride a lightweight dual sport, though.

    consider getting a dirt bike and learning to ride in dirt. it makes road debris much less of an issue. (and it's more fun that you can imagine.)
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  3. RevBill

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    .. actually .. sounds like you got your brain and attitude dialed in pretty well .. Ride Blessed ..

    .. and I am a tad envious of the opportunity to get in on a course like that .. I learn something every time .. have fun ..
  4. superslomo

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    To quote Alain Prost:
    "When I look fast, I'm not smooth and I am going slowly. And when I look slow, I am smooth and going fast."
  5. Coma

    Coma Been here awhile

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    Wow! Way cool thread.

    Bike purchase next spring. $1500 budget for gear

    Returning rider. Things I am learning/relearning.

    MSF Beginner course in Spring.

    Just like Jets, don't take your bike someplace your head hasn't already been.

    ATGATT

    Dirt is good. I think that is why I am drawn to the GS. Well, gravel roads at first.

    Like drawing a pistol, smooth is fast. Although I'm too old to care about really fast, I do find smooth good for the soul.

    Hmm, this trail baking thing has me puzzled, David Hough on order.

    I've been practicing slow on my bicycle, perhaps some will transfer?

    From Face Plants, How many actually wear a Collar?

    I was a full face helmet guy, Anyone have thoughts about the convertible type where the chin guard raises?

    So much to absorb. :clap
  6. orangebear

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    as long as you are over 5.10 tall you will fit the gs ok but the 1200gs and the 1200gs adv are huge bike that weigh a hell of a lot and have a very high seat.


    i would look at the ktm 990 adv as its a fair bit lighter thas a lower seat and is better offroad and is great to up in the bends.
  7. Coma

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    Uh oh, larger gear budget, Yikes! :wink:
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    6.0, so that helps. I see the KTM mentioned a lot, I will do the diligence, I must admit long lust/love for the boxer.
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    .. good point .. ATGATT don't come cheap .. well .. if you buy retail it don't ..

    .. shop the flea market here at ADV .. or fleaBay on the internet .. I have gotten some GREAT deals on GOOD (sometimes nearly-new) gear and saved a chunk of money for Farkles .. I think about the only thing I wear that I paid retail for are my gloves ..

    .. that's something like five jackets .. about six helmets .. three pairs of riding pants .. boots .. everything "name brand" quality gear fit for a big guy .. you normal-sized guys and gals should do even better than I have .. and I'm still somewhere around a grand (US $$) for everything ..

    .. great point Coma ..
  10. Coma

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    Thanks for the Tip!:clap
  11. woolsocks

    woolsocks Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the advice guys. I like to do my own maintenance on the bike (currently doing chain cleaning, lube, tire condition and pressure checks and oil changes) and would like to take the MSF maintenance course. Has anyone taken it? Is it worthwhile? Does anyone happen to have suggestions of where to get some knowledge of bike maintenance in a class room, hands-on setting other than the MSF?
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    I didn't know the MSF does a maintenance class. If you take it, why not post your results? I'm sure I'm not alone in not knowing that the MSF offers this.

    My guess is most folks just figure things out along the way based on their otherwise knowing or add to it by buying a manual. If you can find a Clymer or Haynes manual for your bike model, buy it. These manuals make things MUCH easier because they do not assume you are certified like the factory ones do.
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    Whoops, it appears to be with the MN DOT. Not sure if other states have this program, but you can check it out here. In my MSF course two years ago they recommended that beginners take this one during their first year of riding (which I'm in).

    Check it out:

    https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/rider-training/Pages/basic-motorcycle-maintenance.aspx
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    I didn't read through all thru posts but commuting in NYC has taught me that the car in front if you is history and what's going on in front of him is the present

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    Based on that list, if you don't know that stuff at birth (adjusting a chain???) you never will. Get the Clymer.
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    i only have 1helmet, 1jacket, 1 pair of trousers 2 sets of gloves and 1 pair of boots and are 4years old and still good. i dont bother with leathers as its to cold and wet in the uk to use them much.

    you only need 1 full set of ridden gear and never buy a 2rd hand helmet
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    Subscribe to these guys mailing list & check their site...
    Awesome deals float by regularly: http://www.motorcyclegear.com/
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    Thanks! :clap
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    RE the helmets-thing .. I agree, kinda .. you don't want to pick up a beat up helmet or piece of junk to put your melon in, usually, that's a good word of caution and wisdom there .. that said .. I disagree, mostly .. here's why ..

    Like most things in life, ymmv .. BUT .. I have gotten three near-new helmets off this site and don't have any problem with using them .. one even still had the plastic protective sheet still on the visor (I paid a whopping $70.00 for it and love it, retail was about $130.00 bucks when I got it .. now they are about $90.00-$110.00 if you can find them) .. the other two are very nice Arai helmets that the wife and I use, again, no safety issues at all .. and I have about $200.00 invested in BOTH of them together (not $400.00 to $500.00 + each) .. they came from guys who I PM'd prior to buying and they didn't tell me any lies about their condition ..

    .. the other helmets are in great shape too .. they don't fit me worth a damn, but I didn't spend more than about $50.00 on any of them and I know exactly how they fit and how their (mfg.) sizing runs now ..

    .. I'll also point out that, imvho, a used full-face in good condition is a helluva lot better than a brand spankin' now DOT polo or skid lid or 3/4 helmet .. I wear those too, though not as much these days .. again, ymmv .. even my 10 year old beat up smelly Fulmer Modus Flip-Face is better than any one of my skid lids (and I got a bunch of those too .. in DOT and non-DOT "novelty" flavors) ..

    .. someone will probably tell me I'm crazy, but in my experience, if you're thinking about dropping several hundred dollars into a helmet that you can't try on before you buy, or you may decide after a week that it didn't break-in right and it's not going to work out for you, then pick a cheap used one first .. cause no "reputable" dealer is going to take it back ..

    .. and sizing .. yeesh .. especially with Arai helmets .. they tend to be a real pain if you are not familiar with their size and shape differences between models/makes .. some run narrow and oval and some run "more round" but are not really all that round .. I take a XL Aria in the Quantum II series and a medium in about anything from AFX or Fulmer .. I found this out from buying a couple of used helmets and trying them on and wearing them around the house for a bunch of days (I think there's even a pic or three of my playing video games with the kids while sitting around wearing some of them, which my wife finds just hysterical for some reason) as result if have found that I don't like the near-new Kombat helmet I picked up for $20.00 but my kids think it's the greatest thing to play with (while they leave my helmets I actually wear alone) .. nor the Bell .. nor the other ones (it really is a longer list than I realized until I wrote this and checked the kid's room .. yikes ..) ..

    I have lost nothing by picking up good condition/like new condition helmets from other guys that paid full retail and found they didn't fit and couldn't return them .. I still have far less invested in some good "name brand" helmets than I would if I had spent time and money (and gas) driving all over North Carolina shopping for them .. I don't live in a booming metropolis where it's easy or convenient to go helmet shopping, so ADVRider (and sometimes eBay) is my friend when it comes to gear reviews and picking up good-quality gear at a fraction of the retail price .. I know for a solid fact what the fitment is (or isn't) without taking a beating on the cost of helmets and riding gear ..

    I have even given away some gear that didn't fit me but the kid down the street who just bought a bike (and can't afford his own gear) can (and does) wear .. one guy I work with pulled a "superman" sliding down the road wearing a Joe Rocket jacket I had just given him two weeks before he went down .. (it looked cooler than the FirstGear Killamanjaro jacket I also tried to give him .. shame I didn't give him some pants to go with the jacket (his knees came out looking a little rough .. and my kids LOVE the "toy" helmets they have gotten along the way (though they look more like Dark Helmet from Space Balls running around in those things) ..

    .. again .. ymmv .. but I have had a great time trying out gear for WAY less than retail without any return hassles .. your experiences may vary too, but I have not gotten "burned" by anyone here yet .. helmets included ..

    .. now, if I (ever) get off my fanny and actually (re)list some of the stuff that didn't work out well I would have even "far less" invested in my gear .. and could pass along a good deal to the next guy .. or I'll keep giving the stuff away to other guys I ride with .. whatever works ..

    .. okay .. someone else can have the soap box for awhile .. have a great day folks .. Ride Blessed .. ymmv .. no purchase necessary to win .. credit cards gratefully accepted, cash gets you a discount .. family members and employees not eligible to win .. etc., etc., ..

    .. but, for you NOOBS .. used gear is better than no gear ! ! ! ! .. and that includes helmets ..
  20. NeedaSpace7

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    I agree with everything you have said