Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. superslomo

    superslomo Adventurer

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    Probably didn't help that I was just trying to keep up on a V-Strom while linking together two bits of pavement with a forest road that got a bit nastier than I had planned. I've come to believe I'm allergic to dirt: my bike breaks out in a pretty terrible rash.

    Adv-touring bikes are really mostly too darned big to do any meaningful "learn how to ride dirt" activities, unless you have arms of steel and a decent budget for replacement parts.
  2. slide

    slide A nation in despair

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    You see these experts like Jimmy Lewis working a GS on serious dirt and think it can be done. Yeah, by him but guys like him have a skill level so much higher than even good riders that what he does has nothing to do with what we can do.

    Keep the tires on pavement; keep the shiny side up and live to experience an old age uncrippled.
  3. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    :rolleyes

    :topes

    You can parrot your bullshit all you want it will never make it true.
  4. slide

    slide A nation in despair

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    You can keep trying to get older riders on the dirt to cripple them, but don't expect we who know what you are doing to stand by an let you.

    You are a loudmouthed idiotic liar with evil intent here. GFY.
  5. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    You are an illiterate Buffoon that knows not of which he speaks.
  6. LittleRedToyota

    LittleRedToyota Yinzer

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    it's like he goes into hiding for awhile. then waits until he thinks no one is paying attention and comes back to mislead newbies like the pied piper or something.

    slide, if you don't want to ride dirt, don't. but, stop trying to mislead others. given the number of people way over 40 who ride dirt and do not end up in the hospital...including many who started after age 30 or even 40...you are obviously wrong about people over 30 or 40 being able to learn to ride in dirt. (no one should learn to ride in dirt on a GS, though. learn on a dirt bike or *lightweight* dual sport. duh.)

    btw, have you ever lost traction while riding on the street? how did you handle it? how did you learn how to handle it before it actually happened on the street?
  7. DAKEZ

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    All I can think of is he must be horribly uncoordinated or terribly klutzy to be so against riding off pavement the way he is. :dunno


    Then to insinuate that I would directly or indirectly wish someone harm is just so off the hook it is beyond understanding. I am the most adamant safety Nazi I know of. :lol3
  8. slide

    slide A nation in despair

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    I'm concerned for the terrible advice you give the over 30 newbie. You two are poison and full of gleeful malice as you give out, using your authoritative voices, advice which will cripple these newcomers to our sport.

    I only wish to see that the guy who starts riding at 30, lives to his natural age and enjoys the ride all the way there.

    So I'm unlike the two of you who, giggling as you go, laugh at the results of your advice as written in Face Plant.

    I gotta admit, though, that the Little Red Toyota (yeah, I get it - Toyota is code for penis) is only malicious in this one area. The other scumbag is in all things.
  9. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    it is very beneficial to ride a street bike on smoother grass or 1 inch deep or less gravel. You feel the bike moving under you, learn to relax and let it. Yet it is not challenging enough to make a crash likely. Then on the street when you encounter road construction, or gravel or sand in the corners, you do not freak, grab tight and crash. You relax, let the bike have its way a bit and steer out of it. Now 2 track or single track is not a good idea when you are older. I have been lost bad, rode hard arkansas 2 track on my RS, I did not fall, and like all adventures, it was more fun after it was over than during it. It can be done, and it should be avoided. I do not want to try that again.

    Rod
  10. PSYCHO II

    PSYCHO II Crusty Demon

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    This is where we disagree.... I believe he is quite capable of giving advice to a corpse... That is one corpse to another...:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
  11. Guy Jinbaiquerre

    Guy Jinbaiquerre Monorail Conductor

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    Jeebus, there's a difference between "adult" and "elderly".

    I'm pushing 40 and just got into riding dirt this year. Have fallen off my share of times (albeit not at high speeds) and miraculously my body hasn't fallen apart or broken yet. I say dirt is softer than pavement; YMMV.
  12. PSYCHO II

    PSYCHO II Crusty Demon

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    Spot on.... "stupid is as stupid does"..... let the games begin........................
  13. duck

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    Some mod should peel off all of this "you can only learn to ride well on dirt/no, you can't" bullshit and drop it in HE. It gets old fast.
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    Yep time for some mods to shut that crap down .
  15. Ahboon

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    Hello Fellow Riders:
    I am new to this Forum but not to motorcycling. (71 Years of age and 53 years of motorcycling).
    One vital lesson (inter alia) I have learnt and yet to see mentioned is the relative angle between vehicles at intersections/cross-roads, particularly rural roads crossing a highway. On a Highway, as you approach a crossing rural/secondary/county road: -
    CHECK THE ANGLE BETWEEN YOU AND ANY APPROACHING VEHICLE ON THE RURAL ROAD.
    IF THE ANGLE DOES NOT CHANGE YOU WILL ARRIVE AT THE INTERSECTION AT THE SAME TIME.
    "Hayseed Hank" in his '78 F100 may not see you because you are "shadowed" by a door pillar, mirror or some such and will remain so until the last second. Hank is in the habit of not stopping at the "Stop" sign if he thinks the road is clear so will just cruise right on through crossing the highway at his normal speed....!:eek1
    (Apologies to anyone named Hank or Hayseed, etc.)

    Cheers,
    Ahboon
    [There is no joy in arrival, but there is in JOurneY]
  16. JRWooden

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    That's Great....
    I'd never thought about it that way ......... THANKS! :clap
  17. Apertureguy

    Apertureguy Been here awhile

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    Only thing I have to offer is what I was told...

    Enjoy the ride, but always dress for the crash.
  18. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    This is a very old sea/boating navigation technique that is still used today in many different ways.

    To put it another way, the visual technique for small boats is to observe the motion of the background/horizon in relation to the boat in question. If that boat is moving faster than the horizon appears to moving (from your viewpoint in another moving boat), then that boat will cross your path before you get there. If it appears to be moving slower than the horizon appears to be moving, you will pass in front of him. If it appears to be locked with the horizon, ie no differential movement between the two, you are on a collision course.
  19. geolpilot

    geolpilot Been here awhile

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    We use the same thing with airplanes, but in three dimensions.
  20. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Makes sense.

    To be honest, I've never given it much thought while riding. There are very few instances where I can see another vehicle for long enough on a straight enough intersecting road to make any useful predictions. Plus most drivers speed and slow down randomly and or rapidly, you really never know WHAT the hell they are up to.