Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

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    Have we talked about chipsealed roads?
    If not ... they suck.....
    Here in the USA at least it has been my experience that the "chips" of rock are over applied leaving a very slippery surface on newly "sealed" roads.

    Once you have seen a few of them, they are recognizable as the entire road bed (at least in the beginning) is extremely uniform in color, but is slippery as hell!!! take care.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal

    "Although chip seal is an effective low cost way to repair road, it has some drawbacks. Loose crushed stone is often left on the surface, due to under-application of bitumen or over application of stone. If not removed, this can cause safety and environmental problems such as cracked windshields, loss-of-control crashes (especially for motorcyclists, bicyclists and small trucks), and deposition of foreign material into drainage courses. Therefore, it is very important to sweep the road after the emulsion sets."
  2. meemuh

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    I do wish I could have been there for the rebuild.
  3. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    Chipseal is pretty common on the rural roads of Pennsylvania.. My buddy and I once hit a 'saddle' lower spot that for some reason accumulated a lot of the loose gravel... problem being that we were going at a pretty good rate on the bikes, and could not make out which way the road turned at the top of the rise due to the way the trees were. There was NO doubt the road turned, as all we were seeing was green leaves, but there was also no reference for which way it turned. All I knew is that by the time I instinctively was going for the brakes I saw my buddy's rear tire skidding and stone chips being thrown just ahead of me. I knew there was trouble and that, on my current trajectory, I would be lucky if I was thrown into the woods instead of hitting a tree head on immediately upon entering the forest.

    I wrote the rest up as the strangest thing I almost hit in that thread:

    "I've seen a lot of road debris / mattresses / etc., but I'd say the strangest thing wasn't all that strange...

    Just a dog, in his own front yard, that was barking and running out after my buddy (at a 90-degree angle) who blew the turn (really, the turn wasn't the issue as we never saw it - many feet beforehand was gravel that we didn't expect in a dip in the road, with the top of the road hidden by trees on both sides that, ideally, we would have braked well in advance for and eventually judged - but there would be no good braking on that gravel) and ended up, luckily, skidding through a conveniently placed front yard (we both thought each of us were in for an ambulance ride, and the bikes totalled against trees). As mad as that dog was, and as hard as he was charging, he seemed shocked when he realized that even farther into his yard, and 10 feet behind the motorcyclist he was chasing, another biker was headed right for him.

    At that point the dog stopped both barking and running just in time to watch me skid across the wet grass right in front of him (probably one foot from his nose), then across his gravel driveway at the far end of the property, then across the wet grass at the northern end of the property. Interestingly, he was so shocked that he didn't bark nor chase after us afterward, either, lol."
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19840381

    That both riders and bikes came out unscathed was a miracle in my book. I don't know the family who cleared that little section of woods there and put a house on it, but boy am I thankful for them.
  4. JRWooden

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  5. slide

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    Here the road dept seems bent on killing us with this chip seal. I've hit sections where the gravel has been piled into windrows maybe 15 cm / 6" deep. At least as bad as the riding are the cars and trucks coming from the other direction spraying riders with waves of sharp gravel.
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    PFFOG Richard Alps-aholic

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    THIS will kill, and has. 15-20" wide, un-agrigated tar is like ice when wet, and those guardrails are human cheese graters

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  7. Jon_PDX

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    Wow.....that gives a whole new meaning to the term "Tar Snake" :eek1

    Good reminder to be careful out there especially when the roads are wet.

    Jon...
  8. Motogymkhanaman

    Motogymkhanaman Been here awhile

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    What's the Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b?

    Easy answer - everything.

    Best answers
    1. Your bike goes where your nose is pointing.
    2. The throttle controls the bikes stability far more than it controls the speed.
    3. They are handlebar rests not handlebar grips. That hinge in the middle of the bike is there for a reason.
    4. Isaac Newton is in charge, all you are doing is trying to confuse him.
    5. The limits of control are dependent on the particular rider/bike/environment combination, so what's worked for one person might not work for you.
    6. Only practice makes perfect, so make sure you practice the right thing.
    7. There are mainly five situations that will kill you, one of them is beer.
    8. Experts quickly become learners when the situation changes to one they have not seen before.
    9. If you can't smile while you are doing a feet-up U turn, don't bother riding on the road.
    10 The amount of codswallop spoken about motorbikes outweighs the facts by 100 to 1.
  9. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    Apologies if this has been mentioned:

    Be careful anywhere that cars or trucks stop frequently or park. They often drop oil and it builds up into a constant slick patch in the center of the lane.

    Here in Mexico the toll booths are very, very slippery at the pay windows for example.

    Gas stations. Parking lots spaces and exits etc.

    Even if you keep your tires off it, you plant a foot there instead.

    It's even worse if your boots or tires are wet or it's raining.
  10. ER70S-2

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    Motorcyclying, where the Laws of Physics are enforced immediately. :deal
  11. hughrk

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    Best to learn in a field with a dirt bike then???? I did and im still alive 35 years later:clap

    Other than the physics of the machine/ surface interface you also need to take into account the mindset of everyone near you and how they interact and your own mindset at the time!!

    There is no simple answer other than you are vulnerable on a bike so avoid situations that could end in pain. Self induced or otherwise.................Read this whole thread for a start of your learning!!:deal
  12. JRWooden

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    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    This isn't home-brew. It's the new mini airhorn with stock horn/highbeam controller from Screaming Banshee. I have the old setup, and this is just the compact version.

    They're great. Scared an idiot back into his own lane just yesterday. Excellent tool.

    Www.Screaming-banshee.com
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    Oh I like that!!!

    I especially like how it will allows for the standard horn and also flash the headlight(s) when you trigger it. And it's competitively priced compared to the other options available.

    Jon...
  15. JRWooden

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    Sorry, what I meant was there was an article in the BMW-MOA magazine last year on how to build a circuit card that would manage the time-delay of a 2nd horn installed on the bike, not that Screaming-banshee was home-brew.

    Yeah, I think it's a great idea, I'm going to have to read it closer, but I think it does have a relay built-in which would allow the Banshee to be wired to the battery, and the relay to be picked from the OEM horn....
  16. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    No problem.

    That's exactly how it works. You piggyback on to the stock horn and choose your delay. You can also choose if the horn and lights pulse or not.

    Up to a 1/4 or 1/2 second press: bip bip hey bud! Longer: BAARP! FYYFF! :D:thumbup:
  17. NothingLikeADVerting

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    10) Take the Rider Safety Course.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    9) Share the road. Never force or assume the right of way. Be patient.
    8) Look where you want to go. <o:p></o:p>
    7) Wear what you would like to be wearing when you fall. ATGATT. <o:p></o:p>
    6) Double-check that the chin strap is fastened on your helmet.<o:p></o:p>
    5) Painted sections and metal surfaces are slick when wet.<o:p></o:p>
    4) Keep your head up. Keep your head on a swivel. Know your available exit routes, if you had to maneuver quickly. Anticipate potential dangers constantly. Play the &#8220;what if?&#8221; game. What if a vehicle rolls through an approaching intersection turning right in front of you? Or what if you are approaching an intersection and an oncoming vehicle turns left or makes a U-turn in front of you? Etc. <o:p></o:p>
    3) Smooth is fast.<o:p></o:p>
    2) The throttle is your friend.
    1) Ride like everyone is out to get you. Don&#8217;t let them do it.
  18. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I was quickly reminded when I forgot to fasten my helmet strap -- the wind blew it up and the D-rings smacked into the side of the helmet shell REALLY loudly :lol3
  19. Tenni126

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    Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
    And read the f^&*ing owners manual. I don't know how many times I've tried to re-invent the wheel looking for info that was in the owners manual the whole time.
  20. Goran69

    Goran69 MNE

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    Very nicely pointed out...for me I like 7...very very much...And what if game...I thought I was the only loony around talking to myself :lol3:lol3