Most Important Things to Know For a Motorcycling n00b.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by MotoMusicMark, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    lol.... good music.

    /thread hijack

    I've found that a valuable 'tell' of many drivers is head movement. Many or most drivers will turn their head to look in the mirror or over their shoulder whtn contemplating changing lanes. Noticing this has been helpful many times. If you're on the left of a big rig, you can see them do it in their mirrors.


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  2. fallingoff

    fallingoff Banned

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    Yep and at the same time they will edge across the lane
    In the direction of their next change of direction.
    Watch those front wheels for movement
    Not the wheels go round and a round.
    Lol
    Cheers
  3. fallingoff

    fallingoff Banned

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    No it doesn't
    It sucks.
    And it hurts
    Cheers
  4. KleinToit

    KleinToit n00b

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    The best advice given to me by a 70yo biker on the first ride I ever took is this:

    Forget ABS, forget traction control... The BEST safety device, is a careful man.

    I've been riding with this in mind for years, and its really all there is too it for me.

    edit: spelling
  5. Handy

    Handy Sunburnt

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    He is from South Africa, they talk funny over there.
  6. KleinToit

    KleinToit n00b

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    :rofl missed that. Second language at 11pm plus two glasses of JW black will do that to you...:freaky:freaky
  7. BigShooter

    BigShooter Head Flunky

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    this may have been covered; but, ride in the left tire track of the lane you are in whenever possible. it will put you more out in the field of view of drivers on side roads or drives getting ready to pull onto the road.
    also, in my sportbike days, i learned to not only look through the turns where you want the bike to go, but also, hold your head so that your line of sight is paralelle to the horizon or road surface, not leaned over with your shoulders.
  8. Squidbrah

    Squidbrah Been here awhile

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    Kiss the mirror, and reach for the concrete with your elbow.
  9. PFFOG

    PFFOG Richard Alps-aholic

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    nOOb advice??? Maybe AMA sanctioned race nOOb, but hardly new rider advice:deal
  10. EltonAvenue

    EltonAvenue Banned

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    The guy who posted this would seem to be in the 'banned' category, & I didn't read back to find out what got him banned (seems to be an easy thing to do on here!:deal) BUT, what a great sign that just about says it all for n00b riders!
    PS, the Cat & Fiddle is a famous pub in the heart of the Peak District in England which is on one of the best ever "speed freak" sections of road in the UK, which also is one of the sections of road that gets the most 'biker fatalities!!
    http://www.maccinfo.com/cat/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24717857
  11. Squidbrah

    Squidbrah Been here awhile

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    Woops sorry.


    Well um.....I guess....

    Don't forget to put down your kickstand guys.
  12. PFFOG

    PFFOG Richard Alps-aholic

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    Fixed it for you!
  13. IrishCatholic

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    Decide to be a student - invest your time and money in the classes, books and videos to fundamentally understand what is going on and revisit them often.

    One piece of the puzzle is interacting with other vehicles and how your behavior contributes (positively or negatively) to the overall situation. (i.e. Really understand what causes most two vehicle collisions involving a motorcycle and what you can do to reduce your exposure)

    Another piece of the puzzle is the physics of your motorcycle. (i.e. Really understand WHY applying a brake or rolling off the throttle mid turn may cause you to crash)

    Being a prudent rider is the name of the game, but you can't be very prudent if you don't even understand the environment you're operating in. Incidentally, I believe the motoGP racers exercise prudence throughout a race, so you can surely be fast and prudent - if you appreciate what's going on around you.
  14. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    +1 - for every rider, IMHO minimally once every ten years. Better to do it once every five years. Riding theory changes, skills get rusty, new (to the rider) instructors focus on different areas, and different classes focus on different skills.

    There is a reason motorcycle cops train under competent teachers as much as they do.
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    Sun Ray Polyglottic Moran

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    I got banned. I called someone's family member an insult popularized by Monthy Python, something about elderberries and hamsters. Never thought it would be taken seriously. But then again, you never know... It was the right call and I shouldn't have done that.
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    NSFW ktm's "the tourist"

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    see this all the time on dirt roads. if they can't pass on you on the straightway, they will on a blind rise or uphill or at a turn. i just slow down and let them take my line before an innocent rider coming from the other direction gets a head on.

    pass on the left, stay in your line for at least 20 yards (debatable) and get back on the right lane, otherwise the rider you just passed will get roosted with dust and rocks which put that rider at risk.
  17. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    I thought roosting the passed rider was the whole point of passing. :lol3
  18. dwestly

    dwestly Refuses to Grow Up!

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    There is one piece of advice I give to all new and experienced students (and I try to remember it myself...):

    "The part of the motorcycle that fails most often is the nut connecting the handlebars to the seat."
  19. JohnCW

    JohnCW Long timer

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    To hard to read every one of the 93 pages of posts so apologies if some or all already covered.

    Most important things to me that I've learned over the year, probably:

    * ride with the balls of your feet on the pegs, especially inside peg when cornering.

    * practice shifting weigh across seat whenever possible so it'll be instinctive when you come to that fast decreasing radius turn

    * get your inside knee out easier and further into a corner by shifting the ball of your foot onto the end of the peg (knee naturally points where toes are pointing).

    * practice keeping the bike as upright as possible in corners so you do it without thinking.
  20. orangebear

    orangebear Long timer

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    not sure if thats right.?

    as i was told to lean with the bike so if you come in to hot for a corner just lean the bike over more and you will be fine