Motard racing?

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Tray, Oct 17, 2004.

  1. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    I am thinking of attempting "mini" motard racing. I went to my first one here today and watched. Seemed like it would be a BLAST!

    My question... How do I start? I know I need bike but which one??? Locally it seems even split between Yammie and Honda 150 4 strokes. This is all striclty for fun.

    How do I proceed? Any advice suggestions?

    Thanks!
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  2. experiment70

    experiment70 Been here awhile

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    This last summer was my first season of mini motard racing. I had intended to buy a CRF150, but after looking around I decided that they were just too expensive, and heavy, for my intro to racing. I decided to do everything as cheaply as I could, except for safety gear, and so bought a used XR100. All I added to it was safety wire, handguards, and Dunlop GT501s; I then did the poor man's suspension upgrades, and rode it like I stole it. (Had I actually stolen it, however, I think I would be in jail now due to my tortoise-like "stole it" pace.) It's a great little bike that has put up with enormous amounts of abuse from me, but it is definitely underpowered; I ended up "racing" (read: following) a number of 2-stroke motorcrossers, 85 and 100cc bikes that must have 3 or 4 times the horsepower of a stock XR. No matter, I just judged myself against either my own past performance at a given track or against the other XR100s and the Yamaha TTR125s; we seemed to be pretty equal in terms of power, or lack of it. Interestingly, I found that being limited to ~6 HP did not prevent me from scaring myself. I wanted to race not only to pretend I was Valentino Rossi or Jeff Ward, but also to improve my riding, and I think that I improved just as much on a $1000 bike as I would have on a $3000 bike. Have fun, and if you come up with any great and cheap modifications, post 'em.
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  3. Dysco

    Dysco Diaper slinger

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    Were you in the MRA? #326? Sorry about the 2-strokes, I'm trying to ban them from mini next year in the MRA. It would have been a lot different had we been racing on tighter courses.

    I rode a KX100 in mini this year and a friend raced my TTR125LE. If you really want to be competetive in a mini (4strk) class, go with the 125 or 150. Gearing my TTR up one in the front added a noticable amount of top speed and anything that low corners on rails. Cheap TTRs are out there and the aftermarket stuff is all over ebay.

    I learned a TON from racing the KX. It was fast enough to generate too much corner speed on roadracing tracks so I was able to work on my roadracing technique and I'll be moving up to a bigger bike for next year. Engine modifications can be made to it to generate as much HP as a stock 125 and it's not slow to begin with. I'm currently torn between selling my KX to make room in the garage or adding 17" rims and using it for cheap roadrace/motard practice.

    Mini is one of the best ways to start racing anything. The key is to have fun and then get faster. Doing that out of order will kill your ego.
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  4. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Look up some Battletrax events in your state before you attemp to race with other riders on the course.

    http://www.battletrax.com/
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  5. experiment70

    experiment70 Been here awhile

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    Damn, you're observant; that's me. You don't owe me any apologies; I knew the rules and chose an XR anyway. And like I said, I had fun and learned a lot, and had I been able to buy a KX for what I paid for the XR, I might have been smokin' with you.

    On a side note, I read in the warehouse racing thread your mention of ice racing. Do you have any more info? I'd love to race either indoors or ice or both this winter.

    Forrest
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  6. ysr612

    ysr612 Long timer

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  7. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    Couldn't find any battletrax racing in my state!
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  8. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    Good info! I hadn't thought of a xr100. When I mentioned what I was looking at doing my buddy told me he has a close friend who has 2 hardly used xr100's. :thumb I have him checking into it! Thanks!
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  9. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    What is MRA and why would you want to ban 2 strokes?
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  10. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    Here are pictures from last weekends race.

    [​IMG]
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  11. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    Where can you find leathers at a decent price? Or are there alternative racing clothes?
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  12. Dysco

    Dysco Diaper slinger

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    I got mine for $100 used. It helps to know motorcycle people or know someone who's already a racer for that stuff. Then it takes a little luck. Otherwise ebay or the Advrider flea market.
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  13. experiment70

    experiment70 Been here awhile

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    MRA stands for the Motorcycle Roadracing Association: http://www.mra-racing.org/. It's based in Colorado, and I think MRA used to stand for Mountain Roadracing Association; maybe the organizers eventually decided that the use of "mountain" could potentially alienate the plains dwellers.

    I lucked out on my leathers; I found a full suit, gloves and boots on ebay for less than $300. I would never have chosen the colors had I paid for the gear, but it was the right price and the right quality. I did spend some time searching until I found the right deal. I also bought a spine protector on ebay, a mandatory item in the MRA, and one which I find myself wearing on rides off the track. I tried both my street and dirt helmets, and decided I liked the motorcross lid better.
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  14. Dysco

    Dysco Diaper slinger

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    We run a bunch of classes and I ended up running my KX100 in lightweight and mini. My YZ250F was faster but I had more fun on the KX and I was going to win the class anyway. The 2-strokes in the class DUSTED the four strokes- it wasn't even funny. I had one scary fast guy on an XR100 get close to me in one race because I was shutting it down in the dirt section to save wear and tear on my bike (I'm not a little guy) but he later complained about how I walked away from him on the straights like he was on a bicycle. My goal is to create a competitive lightweight class and a strong mini class- both for first year racers and guys who don't need 50HP to get their kicks. Since most people don't have 85s or 100s, it's better to keep mini to 4-strokes only. I'd rather lose a race to a guy on an equal bike than win by half a lap on a dramatically faster bike.
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  15. ysr612

    ysr612 Long timer

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    check the mini classes in the cmra and the tmgp. these are road race orgs but they both have active motard riders. they also have endurance races as a sort of key to them. there is a 12 hour race coming up in a coulple of weeks. they rarely have over 30 bikes per mini race. Maybe 100 bikes will show up for a weekend.

    http://www.cmraracing.com/index.htm
    http://www.tmgps.8k.com/

    I haven't raced with this next group
    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SEMRAorg/
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  16. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    Great links! Thanks!
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  17. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    The Kawi better than the Honda? Do both have aftermarket parts available? I know how I am. Once I get used to it and can handle my own I'll want to hop it up!
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  18. Tray

    Tray Yeah right...

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    That makes sense to me!
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