MOTGATT vs. ATGATT

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by svs, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. KEN PHENIX

    KEN PHENIX "CERTIFIABLE"

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    Agreed. I've heard the saying that expensive helmets are best at making sure you can be identified after a crash. ha ha

    Everyone should know the risk, gear or not. That's why I waited to start riding again until my youngest son old enough to know everything and confinced he didn't need me anymore. LOL

    If wearing the gear can shorten my recovery time or increase my chance of survival by even 10% then it's worth it.
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  2. cakmakli

    cakmakli Made It - Army Retired

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    I'm MOTGMOTT. I find it odd that people that don't even know you would try and tell you what to wear. If I had all of my gear on, I wouldn't care if someone pulled up beside of me wearing only a thong. Live and let live. If you crash then it's on you.

    Those that try to push the ATGATT agenda are no different then those that push for helmet laws or try to limit or ban motorcycle riding. If something it isn't for you, then don't do it but don't try to tell others what to do.
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  3. Highcountry

    Highcountry Winds up buying the gas

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    Indeed. Someone needs to call the paramedics.

    To each his own. But the idea that gear only prevents skin rash and won't help you in bigger crashes goes against years of accident scenes I've been to.

    There are crashes where gear won't matter. I believe there are far more where it will make the difference, life/death, or walking/wheelchair, or skin grafts/bruises.

    Again, to each his own.
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  4. soboy

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    A big +1 on those sentiments

    I find it morbidly amusing how some of the ATGATT zealots talk like they actually think that their 'stitch is going to save their bacon if they get tboned by a 6000 pound SUV. Ain't gonna happen.

    I don't care what anyone wears or does not wear when they ride and I would never preach to another rider about their lack of gear. For a serious day of riding, I wear ATGATT, although my riding pants are usually draggin' jeans with the CE armor in the knees. I also often ride 1 mile down the quiet 35 mph residential street between my home and the ex's to go visit my kid and dog, while wearing a helmet, tshirt, shorts and sneakers in the summer. It's a risk I am willing to take for the mile I need to go.

    The best piece of safety equipment is one's brain.
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  5. Wild Will

    Wild Will Daily Adventurer

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    First I was a cop for 10 years now I work as a Medivac pilot. I have seen LOTS of moto crashes.

    I ride year round in New Mexico with All the Gear!

    I can replace kevlar easier than I can regrow skin.
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  6. HiTechRedneck

    HiTechRedneck Big Ruckin'

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    MOTGATT, definitely. Helmet, gloves, armored jacket, boots. Without fail, every single time. Though I do ride in regular ol' jeans in good weather, armored overpants only if it's cold. Which reminds me...I need to get some mesh riding pants...
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  7. Wild Will

    Wild Will Daily Adventurer

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    I can buy kevlar easlier than I can re grow skin.
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  8. Ridedit

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    MOTGMOTT for me. I live in LA and the summers are HOT! I always wear armoured jacket, full face helmet, gloves and boots. I just picked up some kevlar lined jeans and Icon field armor knee/shin pads so we'll see how that goes. so far though regular jeans for me unless it's cold, I'm going far (hwy) or offroad then my armored pants go on.
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  9. xKLR_John

    xKLR_John Been here awhile

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    Yup. Dying young saves health care costs.

    http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/15293006.html
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  10. Antifederalist

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    I was thinking about picking up those field armor knee/shin guards, but was turned off a bit by the fact that they aren't CE rated. I figure if I'm going to take the time to put those on, I might as well just wear real armored pants with hip/thigh protection and CE armor.
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  11. weedude

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    I can remember driving my car in the '70's without a seat belt, before seat belt laws were commonplace. Once the seat belt laws were in place, I bitched about not having the "freedom" to move around while behind the wheel. :1drink
    Now that I wear a seat belt ATT, it feels strange not to wear one when driving. :D

    I wear Motoport mesh ATGATT, and would prolly feel uncomfortable without it. :evil

    I did the shorts, sandals, and T-shirts on my dirt bike in the '60's. Had not been aware of ATTGATT back then, nor could I have afforded the gear! :D
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  12. TXL

    TXL Been here awhile

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    Well if ATGATT was as fast to put on (and remove) as a seatbelt, and it was as comfortable to wear in 95 degree weather as a seatbelt, there wouldn't be a thread.
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  13. Gusgus

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    my latest quote!
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  14. JoshDR

    JoshDR Been here awhile

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    i'm getting closer and closer to riding atgatt. right now its helmet, gloves, boots all the time. getting a few jackets so i'll always have a jacket for all conditions.

    only thing keeping me from true atgatt is the pants, thats the one thing that makes me feel like a power ranger.

    what sucks is i want to get a revit setup with the cayenne jacket/dakar pants, but its hard getting to that point of looking like a complete dork. i'll probably be there by the end of this season though.
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  15. hankgs

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    +1 ; Ask any emergency responder and they will agree; Most accidents occur within a 2 mile radius of your home... I, too have responded to many M/C accidents and the low speed, low impact are seveve if not wearing a minimum of Helmet, Jacket, Jeans and gloves... I assume you are all adults who can process what happens to human skin and bones grinding on asphalt; need one say more? :huh
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  16. KSJEEPER

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    Seldom wear riding pants. Jeans, sometimes armored pants if it's chilly. I've had a get-off at hiway speed in a pair of Fox Creek leather chaps and they held up quite nicely. Always wear a jacket with some kind of armor and spine protection. Generally a full face, on occassion wear a Bell Mag-8 which is an open face (not a half helmet). I worry less abou the lower half (although always wear boots). I'm not as concerned about hideous road rash as i am spinal cord injuries and head injuries.

    I know the consequences, and make rational mature decisions based on my own wllingness to accept quantifiable risk here in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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  17. Waco

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    Precisely. Dressing for an 80 mph crash is better, but the chances of being in an accident where the added protection of a full suit with armor makes much difference is low. I wear my Aerostich for weekend rides, but I take my chances on my short, low-speed commute.
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  18. bostonsr

    bostonsr Just weight

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    anything can happen in the event of a get-off...dress for it.

    BMW makes some very good gear that looks/feels like street clothes (summer 2 pants, city pants, inotex jeans.) i went ahead and paid the extra money because the alternative would be riding without proper gear. draggin jeans don't appeal to me lookswise...but the idea is spot on.

    i don't want to look like a spaceman when i am off the bike and walkin around town...heck i don't wanna look like a spaceman when i'm ON the bike.

    so yah, ATGATT here...i did ride twice with motg and didn't like the feeling of not being protected. pavement is unforgiving of errors, dress accordingly.

    abe
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  19. Waco

    Waco Renegade Sickle Hound

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    There are casual alternatives to the spaceman look, but I ride to work daily and I don't wish to wear riding pants around the office daily, even if they look like jeans from a distance.
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  20. bostonsr

    bostonsr Just weight

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    mesh overpants?

    abe
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