Moto down in Guatemala - Need Advise (1100GS)

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  1. dwj - Donnie

    dwj - Donnie Long timer

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    I am going to order the parts from Guatemala BMW. It is about $115 higher than Beemer Boneyard and includes a new cup instead of a used one. Plus that difference does not take into account shipping cost.

    Now I need to find out more about gluing that cup to the pulley! :evil

    BTW, a $10 part took out a $300 plus part! :cry
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  2. Vince

    Vince Been here awhile

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    Great news,intermittent faults are the pits.Happy trails from now on.
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  3. def

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    Donnie,

    Don't overthink this gluing step. If I were in your place, I would just get some glue that will tolerate the temperatures that the pulley may see and use accordingly. If you're carrying some JB Weld, I would use it....just a couple of dabs to keep the pulley and HES shutter attached to one another.

    I do not speak from experience inasmuch as I have never had the pulley off my 2001 but merely quoting from my REProm and based upon a similar thread I posted in several months back (similar situation...engine was running then not).

    The pulley fastener is torqued to 50 nm.

    Once you're up and running again, keep us posted as to your location and what you're doing. I would like to travel that part of the world one day. Is the food any good? How 'bout the liquor? Any cute women (other than Liz)?
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  4. dwj - Donnie

    dwj - Donnie Long timer

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    I was wondering where I was going to get that glue. I actually removed the Hall Sensor about 17 months ago to check the wires, which were fine, the cup and the rotor were not glued together and I have had the moto since it had 28,000 miles.

    I have been using SPOT, but I may be dropped, they say they can't use the Debit Card info I gave then to renew, and I know the info is correct. I will repost the link if SPOT is still tracking.

    A lot a pretty women down here, but it is difficult to beat beauty and brains! :deal
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  5. mark883

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    Liz knows what a Hall Sensor is, and carries a variety of 1/2" / 13mm wrenches.

    How many wimmenz want you to keep a dead HES?

    :raabia

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  6. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

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    that probably contributd to the misalignment on re assembly. Just use some silicone to adhere the cup tp the pulley. After it sets reinstall the cup and pulley.. The clamp force of the pulley bolt will insure the assy stays put. The gluing does nothing more than help insure the cup and pulley do not get cocked upon reassy
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  7. MsLizVt

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    Mark, you made me smile. There's almost always a 10mm and 13mm in my purse!


    PS:(keep the bad cup too, for a bit of forensic analysis, please)
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  8. MsLizVt

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    In my opinion, Bob is dead on with this.

    The cup isn't all that complex, it's just if you blink for a moment when putting the pulley over it and on the crank, the cup can shift. The glue is, in my opinion, just to hold it in place while you're tightening down the crank end bolt.

    My guess is when they put the cup back on, they let it slip, or trying putting the belt on without loosening the alternator. By doing it without loosening the alternator probably would save ten to twenty minutes in time, for the mechanic.

    But it's easy to tighten up the bolt, and feel like you have good tightness, and at the same time, because the cup slid off center, it's being pinched between the pulley and the crank end. Then when running the motor, over time that cup is either going to get loose and wobble, or it's already spinning off center, which would have taken out the sensors. At least that what it sounds like to me, from a gazillion miles away.

    Donnie, sounds like you have a good plan to move ahead, by getting the parts from the BMW dealer down there. How many days before you'll have the parts?
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  9. dwj - Donnie

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    I will talk with BMW Guatemala this morning. The email I received last night said no more than two or three days. Guatemala City is only 75 miles from my current location. When my moto was in the shop there I ask about the availability of a Hall Sensor, as I understood it, they were none in stock, but it was within a day's distance. A warehouse somewhere.
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  10. def

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    If I ever have a HES that goes haywire, I'm gonna have Liz build me a new one....:nod


    :lurk
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  11. scooteraug02

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    Shouldn't this still be a concern once the HES is fixed. You don't want to yoyo back and forth with the same problems.:huh
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  12. dwj - Donnie

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    The tank was cleaned out fairly well and a new pre-screen, pump and filter has been installed.
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  13. dwj - Donnie

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    I can't get Jose on the phone, so I still have not ordered the parts!
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    Good hopefully you set to continue your trip trouble free.
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  15. dwj - Donnie

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    I will be3 when I can get y parts ordered and installed! :deal:D
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  16. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    Maybe Liz can send you the part?
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  17. dwj - Donnie

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    I received a phone call from a Spanish speaking only parts person from the shop. Directions were given in Spanish for a particular method to send authorization to charge my Debit Card. I have sent an authorization, whether or no it meets their criteria, I have no idea!
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    I just got off the phone with Jose, the English speaking fellow at the BMW Shop, and he is following up for me! :clap
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  20. dwj - Donnie

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    I sent two different letters of authorization to Guatemala BMW yesterday along with copies of my Debit Card and Driver's License. Now, I am hoping they will send my parts!