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Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.
Nice to see the wave of enthusiasm from owners spreading! I'm finally off for a day out on mine on Sunday, apparently there will be a break between torrential downpours!
Just to add to the "what a great bike" theme, mine has always (except a 4 month break) lived outdoors, sometimes with a cover, usually not. It is ridden in all weather and gets rinsed down too seldom and washed even less. It starts first prod every time (hope fate isn't tempted to bite at that!) and looks good after a wipe down. the only real care issues are rusty spokes (damn English salt and Italian chrome!) and the odd spot of rust beginning to appear on some sub-frame joints. But they are small and (when the damn rain stops for a minute, have I mentioned the rain?) I'll dab some rust inhibitor on there and the problem will go away. I have got some worryingly big holes in the alloy rims - I suspect the tyre sealant may have corroded them, but (thanks to a rare leaky new tyre fitment) they were noticed in time to take some preventative action.
I still make all sorts of involuntary pleasure noises as I ease on the throttle out of a corner, even when taking it easy on wet roads (you may not have heard, the UK has been having a wet summer...)
So all you new owners out there - well done, you made the right choice, you can be justifyable proud of your decision, give yourselves a pat on the back or maybe a high five
There's a wire under the left fairing that has a special connector for the TomTom GPS. It's a "switched" circuit, so your Zumo will reboot every time the switch is shut off.
Perfect! Thanks Chuck, that's what I was looking for.
I'll remove the TomTom connector and hard wire in my Garmin through a fuse and be done. The Zumo is "smart" in that it won't immediately turn off when the power is cut. Since it has an internal battery, when external power is lost, it pops up a little notice that external power is gone and asks if you would like to continue on its battery. You can select yes or no, or just walk away and it will automatically power down in 30 seconds.
Is there a picture somewhere of where this magic wire is, or is it simple to find?
I don't know how to do those picture things but it's easy to find. Just remove that left fairing panel and it's right there with a wire tie around it. Have fun.
Does anyone know if the brake fluid on a late model Guzzi, like a 2011/12 Stelvio (with ABS) be changed in the normal way? The workshop manual mentions purging the ABS with it connected to the Navigator. But can you do it without the Navigator?. Any links to a forum thread would be greatly appreciated.
Similarly, is it straightfoward to replace the clutch fluid as well?
The clutch should be straightforward, but I don't know about the brakes with ABS.
From memory, without the Navigator you can change normally but you will not be able to change it all, there will be residues in the ABS unit. The Navigator has a function to activate the ABS pump to purge it of old fluid.
I believe anyway.
The clutch is easy - there's a spur pipe running under the seat with a nipple to make bleeding it simple.
That's a nice feature Guzzi provided on my 1200 Sport too (so Norge and Breva would have had it as well).
What are the 2012 Stelvio's going for as in out the door pricing?
US dollars, btw
MSRP + fees. Piaggio is getting smarter and not saturating the US market with the '12s, so they are holding their price (unlike the Yamaha S10's which are selling at $3500 under MSRP right now :eek1 ....sounds like Guzzi 1-2 years ago here).
Thanks again Chuck. Sounds easy enough even a Sock Monkey can find it!
Have a great weekend. Just a few more sleeps until my NTX comes home.....
And unfortunately will be Guzzi again in another year with the Stelvio. It is a very precarious, slippery slope. Orders are made months in advance. As a Manufacturer and a Dealer you want to have enough of the new hotness so you don't miss sales, but you don't want to flood the market and de-value the bike by having dealers heavy on inventory, forced to turn them into cash to survive.
The number of units that will accomplish this is a moving target, and considering the lengthy order time the system by design just isn't dynamic enough to respond in a timely fashion. So what inevitably happens is the desire to capture every sale outweighs the desire to preserve sales at MSRP, and with increased supply the margins begin to erode.
I'd really like to have a Stelvio, but with a 1 year old T800 in the garage I don't need a Stelvio (though I do think my SO would be happier on the back of the Stelvio than she is on the T800). I'm perfectly content to let the market run its course and potentially pick one up at a later date. Or perhaps I'll just keep the trumpet indefinitely and pick up a V7 to compliment it.
I guess we'll see, but based on what I'm seeing in the marketplace right now, I would have to disagree with this prognostication. My main reasons are 1) The Stelvio NTX just arrived in the US a few months ago, and the units that showed up first were all pre-orders, and 2) looking around the country right now, there are very few NTX's for sale. That last bit is a vast difference from what I see in the Yamaha S10 market (which is good and bad....good for people wanting to buy an S10 right now, bad for owners who may be thinking of selling theirs because the value has dropped by a bunch).
Anyway, I hope you're wrong and Piaggio gets it right. By all accounts, that would mean importing fewer bikes than they can sell, thus keeping demand high. As you say, a tough job....but do-able.
I'm in Elk Grove and sat on your NTX when it first came in, want me to bring it over?
For some reason I thought you were in SoCal??? Didn't know you were an EG guy.
Turns out they got 3 NTX's, all pre-orders. The other two went to their owners within 24hrs of the bikes being uncrated, but #3 became available when the guy that ordered it backed out. Bad for him, good for me!
Thanks for the delivery offer, but I've read your RR's (excellent reads by the way, thank you for those ) and I'm not sure I want the big girl delivered with a few thousand miles on her and covered in various bits of desert . Besides, I need to bring them my Duc, so I'll ride the red-headed Italian there and come home with the new dark haired Italian. I hope they don't create a ruckus in the parking lot....
Safe travels my friend.
A guy at work was gonna let me try out his newer Goldwing and somebody pointed out to him that I'd call in sick for a week and take it to Death Valley.
Congrats on the new bike, maybe next year for me.
I'm real happy for all the new Guzzi/Stelvio owners, they really are great bikes. Bought a little one myself.
The V7 is an excellent bike, which I'm sure you are already discovering.
I took my Griso in to RPM cycles in Dallas for its first service Friday and they had an 09 Stelvio with less than 1000 miles for sale. It was nice to be able to park my butt on one and see how it feels because I do have one on order. The Griso has made my GSA feel positively agricultural by comparison and ruined it for me.
Sitting on the Stelvio one thing stands out. It seems that the Italians know how to make a seat, it felt good for the long haul, though a brief sitting can be deceptive. Everything else seems very familiar to any GS rider. I suspect that I will reverse the risers to move the bars forward a bit if possible. I'm so looking forward to October.
Btw, I was in and out at RPM in 2 hours. They seem to be an ok bunch of folks there.