Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    Perfect, thank you. I can get rubber caps down the street at the auto parts store. I'm sure I have M6 bolts.
  2. pyoungbl

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    Drac, before you get too concerned about throwing away clean oil please consider sending a sample of the existing oil to Blackstone for analysis. I'll bet that their report will tell you that your existing oil has lots of life. Waiting another month (600X4=2400) will put you at 5600 + 2400 = 8K miles. I put 7328 on my Stelvio on a 3 week trip out west. The Blackstone analysis showed SUS viscosity @ 210 = 100 (should be 80-100); cSI Viscosity @ 100C 20.45 (should be between 15.5 and 20.6); flashpoint in F 400 (should be greater than 395); along with slight presence of some metals...boron and calcium were slightly up. FWIW, I'm running full synthetic 10W60....as I suspect you are doing.
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  3. xcountry41

    xcountry41 Been here awhile

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    Not exclusively Stelvio related but I rarely go anywhere else in ADV anymore but here, and my impression is this group has the experience and maturity that makes feedback I'm looking for worthwhile for me. Took my wife for a weekend road trip to the Rockies about 4-1/2 hrs each way. Saturday was hot and the riding was a mix of secondary highways and the major high speed 4 lane that runs North/south in Alberta. Left for home about mid day Sunday and the weather was changing. Persevered through a couple light sprinkles with mesh jacket and Klim outrider pants(not waterproof). Stopped at Red Deer for a coffee and put our waterproof stuff on for the last push as the forecast was rain at home and the skies were getting dark. Here's where I'm looking for feedback. My instinct when things get iffy on my motorcycle is to get on the throttle! High traffic volume, leave it behind and or find gaps. Rain and mud off road, pin it! Wind gusts, accelerate through them. A major hail storm hit as we were leaving Red Deer but we were able to pull into a visitors centre and wait it out. After 20 mins or so we got going, prepared to ride home in the rain. The weather was making the high volume traffic flow more erratic than normal with such a wide range of drivers in the adverse conditions. I decided/ instinct was to to ride the left/ fast lane and maintain a safe gap to the vehicle ahead. Wife riding pillion was nervous and at one point when a wind gust moved us 2 or 3 feet got on the intercom and wanted me to stop. The next gust hit us as my hand was off the bar trying to answer her so I ignored her and pressed on .
    Wind and heavy rain eased up as we progressed and traffic spread out a bit, stayed left and averaged about 125kph home. She almost kissed the garage floor when we pulled in, I told her I knew what I was doing. Thinking about the situation a day later, I'm willing to hear others perspectives or experiences in order to make best decisions going forward. It's not only me on the motorcycle sometimes.
  4. Dracula

    Dracula Festina lente

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    I was thinking that too, and mostly also considered the amount of time and effort to do the service work twice if I didn't want to stretch it now. I have been using the Liqui Moly 10W60 on this one, I hope it's decent enough. Simply looking at the oil color from the dipstick tells me it has darkened, but not much else, so sending a sample for analysis would be a great idea if I can get around to do it in time. In the end, when given a choice to treat my big girl the best way, I'd do it and not worry about saving either time or materials.
  5. Hoak

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    I was astounded how clean my oil left the bike on my first oil change, and the similar reports from others here makes me think the service intervals for the Stelvio are very conservative when using modern synthetics. And speaking of that, as your one of the high mile Long Riders here, what's your choice de jure for oil for the Stelvio engine, transmission and final drive? There are some pretty impressive claims by Super Ténéré owners for various products where they've actually documented substantially lower final drive temperatures, and very long intervals on oil changes where the information that comes back from where ever they send their stuff indicates they could go longer still...
  6. pyoungbl

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    Hoak, Drac rolls up way more miles than I. With that said, I think any name brand full synthetic 10W60 oil will do just fine in the crankcase. Along that same line, any name brand lube of the right viscosity should be just fine. The bevelbox deserves a look from time to time because it is all too easy to get water in there. If you pull the inspection plug and see mayo it's time to change right now. Otherwise, use the owners manual as a guide and make sure you do not see large bits of swarf on any of the drain plugs.
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  7. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I think I've mentioned this before but with today's modern oils, changing right on the OEM drain interval is the last thing I'm worried about. Modern oils are very good, I've been a happy Amsoil user for years and when I started using it, I didn't necessarily trust their "double the drain interval", so I sent samples off for analysis every time I did an oil change on ALL our vehicles, using the manufacturers drain intervals. They always said "looks good, run longer next time". We have too many bikes in the garage so I typically don't even get to the manufacturers drain interval lately but on 2 bikes, a Kawasaki Mean Streak and my BMW R1200RT I regularly made it to double the drain interval before sending off samples and those came back positive, so at that point I just quit sending in samples and now I just change the oil in the bikes once a year in the fall and that's it.
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    Bonafide Bob Been here awhile

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    Well, the reason I ask what brand you're using in addition to your being a high mile rider, is you've owned a Stelvio for a while, have few issues, and I see a lot of 10W50 but very little 10W60 around...
  10. HarveyMushman

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    There's a number of them: Castrol, Red Line, Eni, Motorex, Motul, Liqui-Moly, etc. I've been using Liqui-Moly because it's relatively cheap on Amazon and I assume it's decent stuff like any other synthetic. :dunno Probably should get it tested, although I sometimes wonder how useful (or sincere) those tests really are.
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  11. Dracula

    Dracula Festina lente

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    It's interesting how we now extend what to me seems already a huge service interval. If I just think going back to the old school mineral motor oil days, 3,000 miles in a conventional motor, was considered about the right time to change it. But indeed engine technology and lubricants chemistry seems has progressed allot. And am hoping Stelvio metallurgy isn't perhaps that yesterday hot rod iron.. I would be very curious to hear about some 8V motors longest mileage documented. I recall reading of Hank with a R1100 GS BMW was nearing half million miles, with not much major work done in terms of motor wear.
  12. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    3000 miles is VERY outdated, not that we ever trust the govt but CA has been trying to educate people for years about the "3000 mile oil change myth".

    http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/UsedOil/OilChange/

    You can't judge an oils quality by it's color, the ONLY way to know if your oil is still good is to send it off for analysis. There's one AMSOIL dealer who has 120,000 miles on his car and never changed the oil, just changes filters and sends off a sample. They kept coming back OK so he just kept running it. I wouldn't go that far but you get the idea.
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  13. Thinc2

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    Well, what do you do when you fail to keep up with this thread and suddenly find yourself 50 pages behind?

    You read a a few posts every 8 pages or so, and here's what you find:

    I left the action during a discussion of what really constitutes Imola Blue...

    A few pages on: Kriega fork protectors are the talk of the day:

    Next up: Nobody loves their Guzzi like an owner loves their Guzzi.


    Next up: Patching Tires!


    A quick tangent to Fishing :)

    Before we head back to learning OEM hoses will deteriorate over time :)

    And to the wonderous world of Carc bevelboxes:

    And finally to the current day - a discussion about oil on a motorcycle forum :)


    What else did I miss?
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    I ran the surplus hose across between the bodies too.
  15. Dracula

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    I get it now!! So this is capitalism, testing oil vs. changing it - to maximize profit!
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  16. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    Charcoal canister is officially bypassed.

    Capped the TB nipples/spigots
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    Unplugged tank-to-canister vent line and plugged in new 3/16 fuel line running down . . .
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    . . . past the shock and out the belly.
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    No hoses have been removed and the whole system can be made operable again in 15 minutes. No ride test yet, has to wait til morning.
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    A reminder of how "special" we all are:
  18. Dracula

    Dracula Festina lente

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    And so the law of (Murphy ?) says all temporary fixes become permanent repairs. :D

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  19. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    That looks pretty cool. :D
  20. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    You do realize that you've now voided your warranty on your Flux Capacitor™.
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