Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. RRVT

    RRVT Wild and Crazy Guy

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    I searched Craigslist yesterday and noticed that GP Motorcycles in San Diego is selling one for $14,990 with heated grips included. This is first time I've seen a discount on this bike, although the listing doesn't specify explicitely that it's a new bike but I would assume so.

    I didn't want to post a link that will stop working soon. If you wanna see the bike, go to http://sandiego.craigslist.org and search for Stelvio.
  2. James Adams

    James Adams ɹǝsn uʍop ǝpᴉsdn Administrator

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    Dash photo makes it look like single or double digits on the odometer. Maybe a demo? Either way, great price for a great bike.

    FWIW, heated grips are about $115 now instead of the $400 previous price (and the price that the dealer mentions).
  3. kirb

    kirb should be out riding

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    Here is a good question...what should be the price of a 2012 NTX now that the 2013 are out? The MSRP and the bikes are the same, but the owner takes a year hit on value (resale/insurance). I would think the price isn't so much discounted, but in line with a year old model.

    Thoughts?
  4. Sock Monkey

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    Indeed a good question. A few years ago, a used Guzzi would sell for 50% of new (or nearly) because you could buy a new 1-2 year old model still in the crate collecting dust in the PGA warehouse for 30-40% off MSRP. I did exactly that with my '08 Norge, bought new in '09 for 30% below MSRP. It appears that MG and/or PGA figured out that it's a better idea to limit importation and keep new (and therefore used) prices high, so today someone selling a used Stelvio NTX (first imported to the US in '12) won't take a beating on it because while '13s are out, they are in short supply. Plus, now that the word is getting out that 1) Guzzi got this bike right....top quality straight out of the crate and 2) you won't take a beating selling used if it's not your cuppa, I think this trend of demand exceeding supply will continue, and continue to work in the favor of the seller (both new and used). There's my 2 bananas on the subject..... :lol3

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  5. kirb

    kirb should be out riding

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    I was able to take advantage of the low resale when I picked up my Griso. I took about a $1.1k hit from the ins company when my NTX was totalled. That number didn't bother me since I was able to put on 5200 miles in the 2 months I owned the bike and I paid MSRP.

    Buying another 2012 this spring, nearly a year later, I wouldn't expect to pay MSRP. The $14,990 seems more in line. My dealer had another NTX on the floor that is still there. I doubt they would let me order a 2013 as long as the 2012 was in stock, but I would expect paying less than MSRP as everyone else looks at it as a year old bike.

    My dealer can't seem to get euro turn signals...who is the best place to order that stuff from? Now that things are healed up I am looking forward to tweaking another NTX.
  6. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    you're kidding, right? :lol3
    I've got a new high res 27" monitor and it's still a fuzzy picture. Probably had a few demo miles put on :nod

    those tires look new - I'm guessing that's a new bike and since it just became a year older... they're dropping the price.
  7. RRVT

    RRVT Wild and Crazy Guy

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    I think $500 to $1,000 discount for a previous year model is fair. I still laugh when a local dealer was trying to sell a two year old model for the MRSP price, telling my friend that it's still the same bike it was two years ago because it's new. My friend's reply was - the moment I drive the bike out of here, it becomes a two year old used bike.

    Speaking of old inventory, did you see the dicounts on 2009 Stelvios at Moto International? http://www.motointernational.com/HDB_7_05.htm Great deal if you are not set on the NTX. They certainly don't seem to hold the value like BMWs, but that may be changing soon.
  8. Demar39

    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    I ordered my Euro turn signals and mirrors from RPM Cycle in Texas. I have not installed mine yet. Lindsay, the parts manager is very helpful. Others have ordered from MPH Cycles also in Texas. I thought it funny that they are RPM and MPH cycles.... maybe brothers or something like that.

    This is what I was told when I asked RPM about the "kit" ...

    "They don't make a kit but they do sell the bikes that way overseas so I can get the stock turn signals and mirrors that come on that version. I don't have them here but I can order them. For both mirrors and turn signals it would be $123.04. I would need 1/2 the money down to special order them. Just let me know if thats what you want to do. Thanks!

    Lindsay Carpenter
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    972-620-3883 Store
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    www.rpmcycletx.com "
  9. Sock Monkey

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    Yep, $1k off on a '12 seems in line with what other brands do to clear out the last of the older inventory. I wouldn't expect the old deal of 30% off though. :wink:

    Re. turn signals and mirrors, MPH in Houston is where I got mine. Todd will set you up. He's sold bunches of them. The mirrors are slightly smaller than the stockers but have the advantage of not vibrating so you can actually see what's behind you. :lol3

    -SM
  10. Sock Monkey

    Sock Monkey Corporate slave

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    That's exactly what I was talking about in my post above, and I think that's what MG/PGA is trying to change by limiting imports to what dealers have deposits for vs. just shipping containers full of bikes over here and hoping for the best. Time will tell.....

    -SM
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    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Lindsay is top notch in every way.:clap
  12. Demar39

    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    Yesterday I ordered my heated grips from Lindsay. Looks like I'll be doing the grips and euro turn signals/mirrors at the same time. :D
  13. pyoungbl

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    In order to avoid surprises make sure you take a look at the installation write-up over at wildgoose. There is some drilling to be done for the grips as well as finding the wiring harness leads. For the turn signals you will need to figure out how you are going to replace the OEM one time use clips. Neither installation is that difficult.
  14. Demar39

    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the Wildgoose tip. I already have the 5mm push on clips ordered from McMaster Carr.
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    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    I just printed your write-up on grip install from Wildgoose. Thanks very much for doing that - nice write-up. :thumb:beer
  16. Sock Monkey

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    +1

    Thanks Peter. :thumb

    I got my grips yesterday from Todd at MPH and just finished installing them. Even with the reinstall of my Kaoko throttle lock, it was a pretty straightforward job thanks to your tutorial.

    One comment. You indicated that you cut your left grip off. If anyone wants to keep their grip, it will slide right off if you shove a flat-blade screwdriver between the grip and the bar (it goes under there pretty easily) and then spray some WD40 along the shaft of the screwdriver. Wiggle the grip just a bit to distribute the lube and it slides right off, easy peasy.

    Looking forward to being able to feel my fingers after my commute to work tomorrow. :clap It's supposed to be in the 30's again in the morning, and according to my wind chill chart, 30 deg at 70mph = -9. Brrrrrrrr. :vardy

    -SM
  17. hngngnthr

    hngngnthr Geriatric degenerate

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    That's when you snuggle your knees up closer to the warm jug heads. :D

    I seem to recall that rubbing alcohol also makes a good lube for removing or installing grips.
  18. Mr Grumpy

    Mr Grumpy Old Git.

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    Can anybody tell me if there's a freely available diagnostic/tuning program for Guzzis, such as like ECMspy is for Buells?
  19. kirb

    kirb should be out riding

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    I used 'ducati diag' to talk to the griso and set the TPS.

    There is also software by techno-research that will do all that in English.

    Map tuning is slightly more complex.
  20. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    Go over to Guzzitech and order the VDST. I got one that takes care of my Stelvio and the wife's Griso SE.