Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Sock Monkey

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    :lol3

    That's my summer riding position. For winter, when it's < 30 deg F, or raining like a sumbitch, I'd like a little protection. :ricky

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    If only that would work! Id much rather have little or no windshield on my bike. A steady blast of wind is better than having most of the wind deflected, but getting my head boxed around. YMMV, yada, yada,yada...


    If I thought I could shorten the stock shield, I would try it. Using the little Wunderlich deflector helps, but it's not ideal.
  3. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    That pretty much become my default position most of the time. Wearing a FF helmet of course. On the GSA I formerly owned that worked pretty well, no buffeting to speak of with the stock wind screen. I really haven't riidden this NTX enough yet to say with certainty that the results will be similar but thus far it seems that the airflow coming off the screen is a bit smoother than it was on the GSA.
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    I have the CalSci screen and it is very effective, though I wish they had a shorter one available. I think that it's effectiveness is largely due to the simple shape and large vent. I'd bet that even the stock screen would be significantly improved with a larger vent (not that it's terrible to begin with).
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    I have a friend with a bandsaw and am very interested in giving this a try for summer use.
  6. Sock Monkey

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    Well, the ride home into the wind was another successful test w/ the Xcreen. Definitely a keeper. Buffeting was really reduced. :thumb

    Still on the fence re. keeping it clamped on vs. drilling the main screen and bolting it in place, but for now I'll keep it clamped.

    Next I'll try it all the way up for the "Goldwing" effect, just for grins, but as it is now it's doing a great job. I can ride w/ my face shield open up to about 50mph with no issues, so that's going to be a big plus in the summer so I can get some air but not the bugs! :lol3

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  7. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    Is Givi making an aftermarket screen for the new NTX yet?

    I have one for my 09 for long trips and the thing is ridiculous. I can keep my visor open comfortably to 80 mph.
  8. Sock Monkey

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    Based on posts I've read on various boards, TwistedThrottle's web sit, Givi's web site, and a few other sources, I think the answer as of today is "no".

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  9. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Wouldn't the current Givi work on an NTX? I don't think any of the brackets or geometry for the screen changed did it?
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    Nope. The '12 is a new front end, and the previous screens won't fit. Lots of discussion about this on other boards. :cry

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  11. Demar39

    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    Hi Sock,
    The box is welded and the entire inside surface of the door is one big gasket that is compressed when it's locked closed. There are 4 drilled-thru holes on top to mount and this is where the water will get in. There may be some sealing washers in the bag, not sure. If not, a little silicone adhesive under the screw head should solve that.
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    Thanks for the reply. :thumb

    Sounds like they did a good job of making it water tight, at least from normal use. The submarine pilots among us may have some issues though.... :lol3

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  13. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    If anyone is on here lurking and looking for a Stelvio, there are two really nice '09's for sale on the MGNOC. Both low mileage, both red. Prices are 9000 and 9999. Pretty good deals. No connection to sellers.


    http://mgnoc.com/classifieds.html
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    I put the wing all the way up this morning to test "barn door mode". Holy cow! I could hear things I've never heard on the highway before, like my engine (sounds sweet BTW, even with the stock exhaust :clap ). My face shield could be open up to the tested max speed (only 80mph today....dang cages :bluduh ). I really don't like looking through a wind screen, so I'll only put the wing all the way up on truly crappy days when it's pouring rain, but it was a very successful test of this versatile product (no affiliation, just a happy customer :deal ). The top of the wing did wiggle more on the freeway when all the way up, but that was expected given the longer moment arm of this configuration (remember your high school physics? :wink: ).

    Overall, I'm happy with the purchase. I was nervous at first that the Xcreen wouldn't even fit on the NTX windscreen, but it does, and it works very well. My only decision now will be whether to drill my OEM screen and permanently mount the wing, and I think that's just a matter of time so I can remove the hefty steel clamps and reduce the vibes.

    Ride safe everyone! :thumb

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  15. brooklyn slim

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    I apologize in advance if I'm asking a redundant question, but I haven't read the whole thread yet and maybe someone can answer a brief question.

    I ride a WeeStrom which is showing its age. I'd like something with a little more power. I ride 99% street, commuting and short trips (around 100 miles) with a couple of longer trips /year. But mostly local.

    I think the Stelvio is overkill and more than I need (but maybe a bigger and more comfy ride will get me out more and longer), but on paper I'm crazy about the bike - I probably don't think anyone here needs convincing (not that I'm crazy, but that the bike's a peach). Comfort, reliability, endless grunt, farkled out of the box, ton of bike for the money...

    Here's my question: my Strom's like a bicycle around town - weighs around 425 or so, feels like nothing but a little topheavy. How's the Stelvio in this regard?

    I've heard it wears its weight well, feels lighter than it is. For a tall bike, how planted (i.e., not top heavy) does it feel, particularly at low speeds? How much of a handful to push around town is it? I'm not expecting it'll be as flickable as the Strom, but how much more ornery?

    Of course a ride would answer all these questions, but my closest dealer is an hour away and doesn't have a test bike - says MG won't underwrite a tester and he can't afford to lower the value of a new bike by letting people put miles on it.

    I guess I can see his dilemma, but are there that many people out there who'll drop 16K on a bike they haven't ridden? I won't. If I have to, I'll travel to find a dealer who'll let me test ride, then buy from him if I like the bike, and look forward to a sweet ride home.

    Anyway, any enlightenment much appreciated.
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    I feel like it's surprisingly maneuverable once you get rolling. The longitudinal engine layout means that the flywheel and other rotating masses offer no gyroscopic resistance to leaning like they would on any bike with the more common transverse layout (like the Strom). I haven't ridden a Strom for comparison, though.
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    Make no mistake, the NTX is heavy and a handful to push around compared to your Wee. The seat is also very tall, even in the lowered position. I have a 33-34" inseam and I have to be very deliberate with my footing when not on clean dry pavement. However, like everyone says, its heft is not noticeable once it's rolling, even at slow speeds.


    I would also say that the NTX has a stiffer ride than the Wee, in spite of its weight.
  18. WitchCityBallabio

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    Weird. My dealer will let me test ride anything in the showroom.

    anyway...

    I find the Stelvio relatively light handling and don't notice any real difference between it and any of my other bikes riding around in town. I use mine to commute into Boston and have considered its weight an issue.

    Pushing it around in the garage is the only time I really notice the weight. The guys with the new ones with the big tanks may have a different opinion though (but I doubt it).
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    I came off a 2006 Multistrada, lighter and more flickable than the NTX. I seldom ride around town because I'm in the middle of a huge metro complex and just can't feel comfortable on a bike when surrounded by idiots moving at high speed while doing really stupid stuff. My bike sees mostly longer trips. With that said, the NTX is just about perfect for me. I have a 32" inseam and feel that the seat to ground distance is the most important decision point here. If you are comfortable on a Strom with the similar seat to ground distance I don't think the NTX will be a problem. Yes, the Guzzi is heavier and will be a real bitch to pick up if you drop it. Some riders (Leafman60 comes to mind) take the NTX off road and think nothing of it. I'm more cautious. Around town or on the highway the bike is very easy to live with but I find myself being a bit more deliberate so I don't get into a situation where I might end up with the bike taking a nap. The benefit of that huge fuel tank, good ergos, ease of maintenance, and good suspension are just hard to beat.

    RE the demo ride. My dealer has an NTX as a demo. I'm not sure if that is totally on his dime of if MG offers some kind of concession to the dealer, I'd hope that to be the case. If your dealer is a low volume MG dealer he might not think that the MG offer is good enough to offset what he thinks he will lose in terms of sales due to the bike having a few hundred miles on it.

    Just a point of interest, the new 1400cc California will hit the dealers in March but those bikes can only be used as demo bikes for the first 120 days. Looks like the first batch will only be a small number and MG wants to make sure they get maximum exposure from that small number of bikes. Also, only dealers with techs who have gone to the 1400 training will get these demo bikes.
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