Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    One more thing. The front fender does run pretty close to the tire. That could be a problem in sticky mud.
  2. MadMike20

    MadMike20 Adventurer

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    Latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News states that the Stelvio along with the Yamaha Super Tenere, and the Triumph Explorere are basically copies of the best selling BMW GS. Writer states it is tatamount to Hero Worship and ruins their brands prestige.

    Funny cause the reason I purchased a Stelvio was that it was the Anti- (current) GS in my opinion.

    Reasons include:
    Conventional front fork as opposed to a TelemaLever or whatever they call it
    Symetrical headlights as opposed to goofy (one big one small ) headlights
    No ugly Beak nose which was copied from Suzuki anyway.
    Rock Solid rear drive as opposed to...well occasionally solid...

    Don't really see how the Stelvio copied unless trying to stay within the Adventure Tourer category automatically makes a GS clone

    Just me thinkin'
  3. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    They also forget that this isn't Guzzi's first foray into the adventure bike thing. There were the Stornello ISDT's, NTX's and TT's, the Quota's and one could even use the Super Alce as the original adventure bike.

    The Stelvio is merely an evolution of the stuff they've been building for years.


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    You're welcome BMW. :)
  4. ViperJustin

    ViperJustin Retired HH60G Gunner

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    Mud shouldn't be an issue around here.

    The MegaMoto is an awesome bike, but it's narrowly focused. Twisty mountain roads? Check. Everything else? There's a better bike out there. I'm looking at either a used GSA or something similar. The Stelvio I was looking at was a '12. Ultimately, I plan on riding to Alaska in the next few years. I want something that's reliable, fun, and full of character. Also something that I can ride on some dirt roads (death valley is just two hours away). I don't plan to ride singletrack with a big bike like this (or the GSA).

    Thanks for all the info so far!
  5. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Either bike will serve you well for your intended purpose I believe. One more thing that I failed to include in my list is that the Stelvio is easier to service.
  6. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Thanks! Good writeup. :thumb
  7. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    Go read it again. :deal

    He was speaking from a designer's perspective. What's important to him is that motorcycles are always on the leading edge of design. Therefore folks like him have more work.
  8. Sock Monkey

    Sock Monkey Corporate slave

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    I see very little that the Stelvio "copied". Frame, engine, final drive, instruments, etc are all original Guzzi designs. :dunno

    -SM
  9. James Adams

    James Adams ɹǝsn uʍop ǝpᴉsdn Administrator

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    Let me guess, it was a Glenn Kerr article... :bluduh
  10. Lobby

    Lobby Viel Spass, Vato!

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    :rofl

    :webers


    :nod
  11. James Adams

    James Adams ɹǝsn uʍop ǝpᴉsdn Administrator

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    :lol3


    It's been a while since I've read an MCN issue, but I always found his articles to be kind of ditsy and egotistical.
  12. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    the positive side of that is the fender can be removed without dealing with the brake lines....I've seen a few KTM 950 Adventures that was an issue with when mud packed the fender.
  13. James Adams

    James Adams ɹǝsn uʍop ǝpᴉsdn Administrator

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    Looks like I need to get these mounted up now. :clap
  14. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Those don't look bad at all. They will take tons of abuse I would bet.
  15. James Adams

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    :nod

    I got them installed tonight. My OEM racks are really bent, but the Caribou cases just fit. Pictures when the sun is up.
  16. Mr. B

    Mr. B Contrarian

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    How easy are they to install? Do you need to buy additional hardware?
  17. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    Oh don't pay too much attention to MCN saying that in an overall good article. I see what theyre trying to say and agree with it. BMW has blazed a trail and, sure, copies are obvious. No, other than for purpose, the Stelvio is not a copy of the GS. lol On the other hand, there are some similar design features. Look at the seat set-up and design etc.

    Generally speaking, MCN is the best motorcycle magazine out there, in my opinion. They get more things correct than wrong.

    They kinda botched up their original review of the NTX and said a few things that are not applicable. Their man, David Searle, said the hot air from the left cylinder burned blisters on his leg. lol I've written about the noticable heat from the cyilnder but it's not enough to burn blisters. Good lord. I talked to david about it and he kinda sorta backtracked a little.
    He actually really liked the Stelvio.

    Most of these magazines have not really taken the Stelvio on dirt very much and they automatically assume it's not good at it. They also have assumed that it is waay heavier than the BMW Adventure. I disproved that by a weigh-in (posted elsewhere).

    Anyway, lord bless them. At least they're writing about the Stelvio and, generally, the assessment is not negative.
  18. James Adams

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    Easy to install, yes. I was missing some M6 washers in my kit but had some lying around.
  19. James Adams

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    I don't think that you could easily carry a passenger with these bags, but there are also smaller versions. These are the largest bags that Caribou offers (40L).
  20. Mr Grumpy

    Mr Grumpy Old Git.

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    This Glen Kerr fellow, is he the one that they cal Wang?

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