Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. MotoG5

    MotoG5 Been here awhile

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    Getting ready to travel this summer. I understand that he Trax side boxes are not water tight so will need some type of liner. I am ordering parts for my wife's MP3 from AF1 and they also handle Guzzi accessories. Has anyone used the factory Trax box liners? Kind of pricey at almost $200. Garbage bags are pretty cheap if somewhat tacky. Also looking at the box handle kits. Any input would be appreciated.
    Note: My bike was built in Feb. of 2012 and came with the up dated center stand. Last time I talked to MPH Mike said they had still not heard about the upgrade kit that was announced last fall when I bought the bike. I believe the center stand was part of that deal. Who knows where that is at. Kind of a moot point I guess with almost 2k in the bike now. Only issues so far have been dealing with the aux lamps (Kirb's fuse kit on the way), cleaning and greasing the battery connections( two failure to start events) and vibrating hand guards (rubber pad inserted). Future plan is just regular maintenance, keep on the look out for loosening hardware and ride. Also a bit of wondering how long the tires will last and and when my mirrors will fall apart. :D
  2. ripngrip

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    I bought the Guzzi Trax liners and the positives are they fit the bags perfectly, are waterproof, have a carry handle, and seem well made. The negatives are that they are way to expensive for what they are, plain bag liners. If I did it again, I would likely get the drybag or twisted throttle liners at half the cost http://www.dualsportplus.ca/hard_luggage/TraX/accessories.html

    And I think the build date of your boxes will determine if they are watertight, mine are the newer ones with the newer locks and improved seals, rode through couple hours of heavy rains a few times, and no leaking as of yet.

    And for the mirrors, get the Euro signals and mirrors, night and day difference, the Euro style ones are clear at almost all speeds/rpm range for me
  3. dirtymartini

    dirtymartini Shaken, Not Stirred

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    +1 This was my line of thought also.
  4. boxermoose

    boxermoose Now fully goosed

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    I'm in the block each one off camp - did the same on airheads

    Why? - because that's how it is when you balance the TB's - so when you connect them they are immediately different that as tested. However as miles go by the cross connection may have some benefits

    At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter much
  5. Toadride

    Toadride Been here awhile

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    I first just plugged them at the tee. Tucked back up there, sight unseen. Of my many teething problems, this unfortunately was one of them. Unbeknownst to me, the tee was resting against the head. Melted thru, disintegrated and to a while to find. Now rerouted with a straight across tube well out of the way of the engine. But I do feel that the best route would be to plug both and get that tube out of the hot zone.
    And for the bags, my Trax with the heavier seals never leaked a drop with thru all kinds of crap. Destroyed in the accident, they have been replaced with the smaller seal types. I need to find out if the larger seals will fit on the older style bags and Todd, who did the work can send them up to me.
  6. MotoG5

    MotoG5 Been here awhile

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    Are mine the new or older style? If newer I will just go with the box carry handle kit as they are not to costly. I would love the top box to match but can't go the bucks. I am riding solo and will just use a good dry bag for the trips.
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  7. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    Those are the newer style. I got the handles to go on top and they make it a lot easier to mount, dismount and carry the bags around.

    Marc
  8. GerryL

    GerryL Been here awhile

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    I am so glad you posted this! I was experiencing this pulsing the other day a few times when at low speed, and once a couple weeks ago. I thought I was losing my mind because it didn't do it all the time. I'll have to go have a look. Thanks!
  9. ripngrip

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    As per Lomax, those are the newer style (same as mine) and should be ok. Like I said before, my experience in a couple of nasty days of rain has been internal leakage, not on the seals nor rivets (as I think older Trax bags had).

    :wave Glad to help, and hope cleaning the bobbins helps!
  10. boxermoose

    boxermoose Now fully goosed

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    I got the 34Ltr Caribou - universal mount....prefer it to the Trax and about$320. If you pull the top box off it leaves a nice rack beneath

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  11. Bruce S

    Bruce S Life is short - Live it

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    Well hello out there, just took the plunge and bought a Stelvio 1200 NTX. Never owned a Guzzi before but I loved it when I rode her. Was going to by a BMW, kinda glad I didn't. Been reading this thread to learn about her. Thanks for all the info. Oh buy the way I should pick her up on Saturday - cant wait.
  12. jwdub

    jwdub Been here awhile

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    Bruce S.

    Congrats~! Enjoy your new ride.

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  13. danketchpel

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    Congrats Bruce S! Let us know what you think after you've had a chance to take her for a spin.

    Can you say you noticed any difference, particularly at idle?

    I'm now very curious to simply try it to see if I notice any difference. There have been times owning large twins I wished they simply had a single throttle body so no balancing required. It's my understanding this is the arrangement for the smaller V7 based bikes. I haven't ridden one of those yet but I'd like to.
  14. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    I took your advice and pulled off the tank so I could check the top engine mount bolts plus I checked all there rest.

    I did find the top 2 on each side not quite snugged up to satisfaction. They weren't finger tight but not "wrench" tight either. The large single bolt connecting the bracket to the engine was very tight.

    Here's a few shots of the bike with the tank off etc. for those who may not have seen it this naked yet.

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    And the offending bolts.

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    I checked all the rest and most were tight but the top rear mount through bolt wasn't very tight. I also snugged up the ground bolts near the starter. I must say I think the size of the bolts/lugs is sufficient as long as they are clean and tight. I actually think it might be better if they were both under the same bolt instead of being separate.

    People have commented they wonder where Guzzi puts all the fuel, well here's what the tank look like, and it's made plastic.

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    I very much appreciate how easy it is to remove the tank and how good access to the pump is. If you had to pull the pump in the field it would be a snap.

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  15. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    I reused the Givi E45 topcase I had been using on my Vstrom.

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    I must admit I'm still getting used to the way the top box appears to just hang out in space on these bikes.
  16. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    While I was poking around on the bike I couldn't help but notice how "international" the bike is......

    The ABS module.

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    And the Alternator. Interesting thing here. The manual lists output at 550w. The label clearly shows 55A which would translate to 660w at 12v (Watts = Amps x volts). Hmm.... am I missing something here ??? Did an upgrade occur or are they very conservative on the quoted output? 550w should equate to roughly a 45A alternator.

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  17. ramli

    ramli real n00b

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    while having the tank off, something to consider -

    at the beginning I struggled with air buffeting, not much changed with height of the screen or MRA lip (well, it changed somewhat, but still for ME with MY helmet -caberg ego - had such a vibration that made my nose horribly itchy). Once in the rain I noticed that most of the wind comes from the funnel between tank and fork. Experimenting with hand on the gap gave me an idea, so during the winter I managed to make a screen to this area. Used a thin soft sheet of rubber, tied with cable ties to the forks (not to forget to turn to the full lock on both sides) and other end is fixed under tank's front bolt. I'd say it was an improvement, no problems even with windshield in lower position.

    Downsides? Don't know, maybe on a warmer climate you going to miss that extra fresh air from there. :knary

    BTW, also using the tankbag was pretty good on that, but didn't want it on all the time. Basicly anything that will cut or deflect this airstream can work to the extent. As an example, sometimes had waterproof zip-bag tied to the handlebar when no other luggage was needed and it deflected the stream quite well too.
  18. XT Traveler

    XT Traveler Been here awhile

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    Ramli -- Can you post pictures of of the "Wind Screen" that you made that fits between the tank and forks ?? Thanks!!!!
  19. James Adams

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    The output capacity would depend on the RPM that the alternator is being driven at. Considering that a motorcycle engine operates at a wider RPM range than the engine of a car or truck; even if it's capable of providing 55A it might only deliver 45A in typical use.
  20. ramli

    ramli real n00b

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    Yes, its more like an apron than screen.

    in a "relaxed" position, note the folds. Strap is for the tankbag.
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    on full lock to the right, no need to wrap around the stanchion, one edge under the cable tie is enough.
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    an upskirt one
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    and a showoff :wink:
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