Moto Guzzi Stelvio (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by young skywalker, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Sock Monkey

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    I like Guzzi's (the Stelvio is my second one), but I have to add to what Dan is saying here. As an electrical engineer, it's appalling that the designers slapped that together like they did. Making it possible for a short in the aux lights to take out the generator really is inexcusable. There are SOOOO many more places that they could have tapped into the loom for those lights, or just spend the extra $5 and put another, dedicated fuse into the fuse block for them and be done.

    Come on Guzzi/PGA, do the right thing and redesign this. It should take about 30 seconds.... :ddog

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  2. Sock Monkey

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    Just a quick question. After it leaked did you neutralize the terminals w/ baking soda (or similar) before attaching the tender leads? Any acid left on there will start the chemical process that you see pictured.

    Not trying to defend Yuasa, just trying to figure out how acid can "leak up" a clean terminal..... :huh

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  3. Demar39

    Demar39 Been here awhile

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    As a personal preference, I like the blue fuzz on the neg. terminal better than the green fuzz on the pos. terminal, in case anybody is keeping score.
  4. pyoungbl

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    Just as soon as I get my Big Girl back with her new gas tank I'm installing the Li battery (Anti Gravity) I got from Todd at GuzziTech.com. My original battery leaked and was replaced under warranty, with exactly the same battery. It's just a matter of time before I see the same problem with the 'new' one. To hell with it, I'll eat the cost and put in something that ain't gonna leak. Of course i am concerned about cold weather starting so I went with the most powerful battery that would fit. Time will tell if this was a smart choice.

    Time after time I tell my self that I'd buy another bike if I could find one that is nearly as capable, fun, and simple as the Stelvio. So far nothing comes close. Wart and all she's a keeper.
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    Believe me SM. With a tooth brush, Q-Tips and baking soda solution. I don't think its liquid acid but rather out gassing that condenses forming droplets on surfaces above the leak. It takes time for the damage to be done and a lot of free liquid is not involved. Just enough to mess up paint and damage metal parts in the near vicinity under the battery. I am afraid these batteries have a manufacturing issue with sealing around the terminals. Like most of us on the list I have owned quite a few bikes over the years and have never seen anything quite like this. Guzzi installed what is advertised as an AGM technology battery and I have had AGM types in other bikes with out issue. These units have failed in not just Guzzi's but also Triumph as well. I have had not just one but two do exactly the same thing and each one was supplied from a different source. So the only conclusion I can come to is to get something else and roll on. Love the bike and after all a battery is a consumable item. Its frustrating for sure but no deal breaker. If an owner got one of the ones that didn't leak its a great deal but I just don't seem to have been that lucky.
  6. Blakebird

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    You should point the finger at Hella....it's their lights that Guzzi selected as an accessory.
    Guzzi does need to be aware of the issue so they can take preventative measures on the assembly line....but it's not a Guzzi quality issue.

    My left Hella went out near the end of a 5,500 mile road trip about three months into ownership and at approximately 10,000 miles. Dealer fixed it, it was a blown H3 bulb - no funky wiring/arcing issues.


  7. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    :huh If Guzzi is selling the Hella lights as an official accessory then it's their responsibility to make sure the lights function correctly on the bike.
  8. Sock Monkey

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    Thanks for that.

    Wow. That's too bad. I was hoping my last go-through with the brush would end my fuzzy-troubles, but it's not looking good.

    Like you, I've had many other brands of bikes and many batteries and I've never had a problem like this before. Time to start shopping for a new (different) battery..... :cry

    -SM
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    After cleaning up the fuzz a few times, I coated the connections with dielectric grease and they still look good.
  10. Sock Monkey

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    I did the same about 3 weeks ago (brush, neutralize, grease). So far it looks OK, but one more fuzzy terminal and it's off to the recycler for the Yuasa.... :bluduh

    -SM
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    Mike at MPH recommended good old vaseline - after the fuzz came back using deilectric & it's been fine since

    'Course it could be that the electrolite reach equilibrium and the venting stopped
  12. Demar39

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    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    not everybody has had issues with the Hellas....me for instance.
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    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Mine are still like new too. They're sitting on a shelf in the garage.:deal
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    And so far I am carrying on the tradition with no issues. :clap I do have them fused and did make sure they were well insulated and all the wires are neat and tidy in the rubber cap. No shorts and not even any abrasion on the wires. My issue is with the high beam. :lol3

    Marc
  17. James Adams

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    Mine has been down in the dirt on both sides, so they are pretty beat up, but they still work. I've never checked the wiring.

    I have one of Kirb's fuse kits "installed" in the tank bag, waiting for some free time. :lol3
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    Yup, me too, in mint condition.

    I honestly don't miss them. The headlights are great on this bike.

    I might consider some nice LED lights later on but it's way down on the list of priorities. I want a better rear shock much worse.
  19. kirb

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    Awesome! Two of my things that look great, get zero use...:clap
  20. danketchpel

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    Ok, I got the horns installed today, wahoo!!! They sound like how I remember the Fiamms on my old BMW sounding, AWESOME, like a friggen truck.

    It turns out they can be installed using only the hardware that comes with them plus a 5 pin relay and some wire. I use used standard 5 pin automotive relay from Napa. You can also get the mating connector pigtail from Napa. The 5 pin version has 2 output terminal so the horns can be run in parallel so if one fails the other will still work. I used a Battery Tender fused lead cut up to get my fused power lead to the battery, love those leads for a cheap fused link.

    The original horn wires can connect to the coil closing pins on the new relay. The ground wires that come with the horns can be used as is, along with the brackets. You will need to do some creative bending of the brackets but they work fine. You will also need to clip off one of the plastic posts on the side panels that isn't used for anything as it hits the horn.

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    The hardware that comes with the horns.
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    The right side showing the horn mounted and where I chose to mount the new relay.
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    A close up showing the mounting bracket.
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    The left side which also shows the ground wire installed.
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    A shot showing the post that needs to be clipped off.
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    And some shots after the panels are replaced.
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