MotoAmerica 2017 Non-Spoiler Thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. south

    south Been here awhile

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    I'm certainly happy to see (some semblance of corporate) Honda back in US racing, but, much like how Ten Kate is supported primarily by Honda Europe, this deal seems to be backed predominantly by American Honda with HRC/Honda Japan functioning more as a conduit of info/data between race programs with maybe a little in-house hardware development here and there--which is to say, a far cry from the days of full-on HRC built and developed racebikes shipped to factory teams around the world. Which is (then) to say, I don't see support akin to the Graves Yamahas and Yosh Suzukis, so, at present, it's hard for me to see much near-term success. I suspect that "HRC" decal solely/largely denotes the presence of the "professional race teams only" SP2 race kit, along with the phone # to dial in to the weekly race teams' conference call.

    Sidebar: I continue to wonder how much Honda's continued struggles in F1 have drained, and continue to drain, resources--money and minds--from their 2-wheel racing programs overall.

    But, you gotta start somewhere, and it *is* a start.
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    There haven't been HRC decals on the Ten Kate bikes for years. HRC decal on a race bike funded by a distributor means you are getting some level of tech support from HRC. There is a history of Honda kit parts being very difficult to get for privateers so that HRC decal has some meaning.

    During the last few years of American Honda's effort in AMA Superbike (pre-DMG) they stopped leasing superbikes form HRC and built their own bikes for DuHamel, Zemke, Hodgson, et al.

    I doubt the Honda F1 budget has anything to do with MotoGP. Moto and auto are different divisions with different goals.
  3. yooperbikemike

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    I think that the fact that the launch was held at AmHon, with some lovely historical Honda racing kit on display is a significant statement as to Honda's level of involvement.
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  4. south

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    That's exactly what I said--it denotes the HRC race kit for the SP2 that Honda has already stated is available only to professional race teams.

    That decision was made by AmHonda themselves after the team--specifically DuHamel with Luddington--spent the off season dialing in the chassis balance/weight distribution only to have HRC refuse their input and instead impose their own chassis setup/balance for the HRC built bikes. The fact--and my point--is, at the time, unlike the present and recent past, HRC was still building and making available full-on factory race bikes; AmHonda's decision not to avail themselves of the HRC bikes back when they existed is an entirely separate matter.
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    I agree entirely--but not in the way you mean. The significance is that it's an AmHonda deal, not a factory Japan/HRC program, which is exactly what the team themselves have stated.

    Now, if Gagne--along with Nicky and Bradl--were scheduled to test or do wind tunnel work in Japan prior to the season(s) start, like the Honda riders always did in the past--and like the Yosh riders and Guinters have already done with Suzuki earlier this year--then I'd say that would show significant Honda *Japan* involvement.
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    Sorry if I got my wires crossed and didn't get your point. Looks we are on the same page.
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    A New Weapon in the fight for MotoAmerica Superbike Supremacy

    Torrance, CA - In the belly of the American Honda Motor Corporation (AHM), the stage is set for the biggest change in the team's history. Media and AHM employees are anticipating the formal announcement of perhaps the worst kept secret in the paddock. The news that awaits clearly isn't that the team will be using Honda Groms to maneuver through the pits, or that big beautiful red generators will be powering team equipment. No. While those things are true, the big news that has gathered the crowd is the formal announcement and introduction of the 2017 Genuine Broaster Chicken / RoadRace Factory's newest partner and supplier of race weaponry. American Honda Motor Corp.

    For the 2017 MotoAmerica Superbike Season, the team will be piloting the highly anticipated and completely redesigned Honda CBR1000RR. AHM and the team have reached a multi-year deal that will see the team take on the lead role in the continued development of the latest generation of the CBR family. In what is expected to be a steep learning curve, the coalition of Broaster Chicken, Honda, and RoadRace Factory are fully committed to providing the sport a much needed injection of diversity and enthusiasm. To that end, all major principals were on hand for the event.

    Last season saw the entrance of a new team sponsor, Genuine Broaster Chicken. While the 2016 season was nothing short of a challenge that tested the determination of all involved, the good folks at Genuine Broaster Chicken stood by the team. During the off-season, Jay Cipra (President and CEO - Broaster Company) negotiated a larger deal with team principal Danny Walker. This new deal was a clear show of confidence in the team and its ability to run more than just a competitive effort. Genuine Broaster Chicken has doubled down on their sponsorship of the team and has helped create a team structure that will allow more resources to be available to Jake Gagne and the 32 Crew.

    For Honda's part, they have committed to a multi-year technical deal. To be clear, this is not a full factory effort by Honda. This a technical support deal that will supply the team with bikes and technical guidance while helping to bring Honda back to American Superbike Racing. AHM has fully committed to this new partnership, as evidenced by the location of the introduction, and are just as eager to showcase the new CBR for the American fans. It has been a long time since AHM has provided this level of support in American road racing. They felt that now was a great time to reenter the paddock due to the strength of MotoAmerica's popularity and the organization of the Genuine Broaster Chicken team.

    We are certainly very excited about this new partnership and we can't wait to see you all at COTA for R
    ound 1 of the 2017 MotoAmerica Superbike Championship!
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    Bobby Fong's Latus Kawasaki ZX10R for the SSTK1000 class

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    Dang. I watched her win at Daytona and got a signed poster afterwards. I sure wish her well!
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    Likewise. To succeed in a traditional man's sport and then have to deal with that kind of crap just isn't right.
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    He states in that instagram post that he'd like to "get down to the weight of a moto3 rider". I reckon that means he's angling for a Moto3 ride.

    He finished 4th last year in Superstock 600.
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    Maybe, but is cleaning up Jack Miller's vomit worth it?
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    Apropos of nothing at all, I found some old posters to help decorate the garage.

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