MotoGP: Der Sausagering (Ach du lieber, spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. ErikY.

    ErikY. Here, Now.

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    Anyone that thinks it's over for Lorenzo is wrong. The guy is a phenom. He's struggling a bit due to a few different factors but he won't stay down.

    Same thing with Rossi in the last few years; everyone jumped off the bandwagon and proclaimed him washed up. Eating crow now.
    These aren't guys that give up and unless there's some serious personal impairment or serious mechanical impairment then they retain the ability to be up front for a long time.

    Go JLo!
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  2. Mike Yanagita

    Mike Yanagita Been here awhile

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    Lorenzo said he did poorly at Assen because he crashed there last year; he also crashed at Sachsenring last year, so there's a big question mark heading into the weekend.
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  3. zerohype

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    I will be surprised if MM doesn't win. Everyone else is on 800's or appears to be, to me anyway. I'd also like to see him break Doohan's record of 10 straight wins.
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  4. azkiwi

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    +1. Anyone who can race with two broken ankles is not a quitter. That said, he may need to spend a little more time in the wilderness to refind clarity of self. Needs a few 3rd to 5th places to get back in it.

    Rossi has modified his riding style - whether to keep Marquez in sight, or simply because the game has changed isn't germane - but Lorenzo (and Crutchlow) resist. Yamaha has worked to get Lorenzo his old bike back, but really, this is not the way forward. He has work to do.
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  5. yety61

    yety61 Global Vagabond

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    Yes

    I do agree.


    Lorenzo admitting he was scared of crashing at Assen because of last year speaks volumes about his state of mind at the moment.

    I have no doubt he'll fight back, but I just don't think it will be this weekend. Maybe after the summer break, when he's had time to analyse and reflect, then I think we'll see a different JLo.

    But then again, I'm not part of the GP circus, so what do I know? :lol3
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  6. tinhead

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    The smelly midget goes into Germany with his future set through 2016. He has nothing to race for, contract-wise.

    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Honda+Racing+Corporation+sign+Pedrosa+until+end+of+2016

    I'm actually surprised by this, I saw Pedro and Lorenzo as the likeliest to go elsewhere. This leaves Lorenzo nowhere to turn, he stays at Yamaha or gives up hope of another title.
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  7. Pecha72

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    Well to me it totally makes sense for Honda, as Pedro is a very fast and experienced rider, who could fight for the title, if Marquez happens to get sidelined. Perfect #2 rider. Taking Lorenzo on that seat probably would have severely pissed off Marquez – I can´t think of one good reason, why Honda want to do that to their no.1 star?

    But Lorenzo´s situation is interesting right now. There appears to be something similar to where Rossi was four years ago (before he made the ill-fated switch to Ducati) .... so you basically do want to stay, but won´t tolerate a big pay cut, and what´s more, your status as #1 rider in the team is under severe threat. The difference is, Lorenzo has seen four more years of Ducati getting nowhere (and how Crutchlow is doing), so he probably does not take the Italian as a serious option, like Rossi did. Come to think of it, where is he gonna go?
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  8. BOOTLACE

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    'Smelly Midget'? Are you right with that? :huh

    I like this....classy..
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  9. BOOTLACE

    BOOTLACE Bikie Scum.

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    'Smelly Midget'? Are you right with that? :huh

    I like this....classy..

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  10. Moronic

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    Well it's Suzuki or Ducati. But it's hard to believe Suzuki wouldn't pay him less than Yamaha, and give him lesser machinery. So ... it's Ducati.

    Only ray of hope there is the redesigned engine that is supposed to be ready for next year. Supposedly throws Ducati's engine-as-frame design history out the window, which could make a big difference.

    After all, it is not as though the present Ducati is short on horsepower. And there is no obvious reason why a redesigned engine should be slower.

    The lure then for Lorenzo would be:

    a) a pay rise;

    b) undisputed team leadership;

    c) the faint possibility that the bike with a year of development and control electronics could be better than the 2016 M1 with control electronics; and therefore

    d) the faint possibility that he could cement his legend by doing what Rossi couldn't and winning a title or two for Ducati.

    It is all a pretty big stretch. But it is all about the alternatives, and the alternative of spending the next two and a half years on the M1 chasing Marquez, while battling with Rossi for development input and forgoing a pay rise, might not look all that enticing either in Lorenzo's present frame of mind. :bluduh
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  11. tinhead

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    WWJD? What Would (Lin) Jarvis Do?

    1) Tell Lorenzo the contract term is 2 years, no opt out after a year a la Crutchlow.
    2) BIG pay cut, a million euros a year max.
    3) To make up for 2, bigger than usual performance incentives (Podium, race wins, Championship), if JLo has a Marquez year he'll earn more than presently.
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  12. tinhead

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    Did she steal Umbrella Boy from Pedro or Crazy Joe? :rofl

    I am quite comfortable with my Pedrosa Hate. Have been since 2006. :1drink
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  13. Parx400

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    Pedrosa hate over 06 is so American white trash. No one cares anymore.
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  14. misanthropic

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    Indeed. History has shown who the better racer is and it's not even close. No Nicky hate here I think that he's a class act but facts are facts.
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  15. azkiwi

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    Nicky will be remembered long after Mr.-Second-Place-on-first-place-equipment is in the dustbin of history.
    I didn't like the dour, overhyped Pedrobot before 2006 either. :lol
    GO ROSSI :clap It will thrill my heart if The Doctor relegates The Midget to third place through 2016.
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  17. Kropotkin

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  18. Johnf3

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    You are right, he will be remembered...as the guy who could win a race but never a championship. This will be Perdrosa's spot in MotoGP history.
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  19. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    And Nicky will be remembered as the guy with a title and only 3 wins. IN HIS CAREER!!!!
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  20. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    Give him Cal's cell number. :deal :lol3

    The Duc does not suit Jorge's riding style.
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