MotoGP: Holland Days (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. swimmer

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  3. azkiwi

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    Those faces have already been there. Cal rode Jorge's chassis and, lo and behold, decided it wasn't better and opted to keep what he has. The grass is always greener.

    To all intents and purposes, Crutchlow is already riding factory.
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  4. azkiwi

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    When asked if he will now be approaching this race any differently, Monster Yamaha Tech 3 star Crutchlow said:
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  5. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll

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    I really like Cal.

    He has a personality (maybe sometimes a bit TOO outspoken) as opposed to some of the bots in MotoGP.

    Hope he gets a 100% factory ride next year, or better Yamaha support, like Bradl gets from HRC.
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  6. Chuckracer

    Chuckracer Jerkus Maximus

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    I don't think it would do Cal any good at all to be on a factory team. He's in the right spot at the right time. Playing second fiddle to Jorge on the Yamaha team? Not likely.
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  7. mike54

    mike54 You don't get me

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    Given Spies and Rossi's experiences there may be some bad juju attached to the factory Yamaha #2 bike.
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  8. Closed Casket

    Closed Casket Jaded and Faded

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    Completely agree. Cal is much better off playing chaser / antagonizer and Herve seems like a cool dude and great team manager, love his on camera expressions during the race.

    Man, if Dani boy doesn't win the championship this year, not sure what he can do. Never thought I'd root for the lil guy but he has matured very well and is a fantastic alien.

    Never count out Marky Mark - love that kid!

    Weather doesn't look great for tomorrow or Saturday. Cool and wet tomorrow for qualifying and cool and showers on Saturday. UGH. Is it ever dry in Holland?? Krop, can't you do something?? LOL
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  9. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    He tried the chassis Jorge tried and discarded, not the one Jorge is riding now.
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  10. azkiwi

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    Do you really think there are substantial performance differences in their bikes? :ear
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  11. Osmin C

    Osmin C Been here awhile

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    At this level of racing it doesnt matter that its substantial or not. :deal
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  12. DC2wheels

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    Do you really think that the factory would allow their satellite bikes to have the same performance????
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  13. Mike Yanagita

    Mike Yanagita Been here awhile

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    Keep racing till he's too hurt or old to keep going? He's been dealt shitty cards some seasons. He can retire with his head high even without a WC.
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  14. Moronic

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    I see this suggestion a lot, and not sure what to make of it.

    Sure, humans are manipulative little beings and will do a lot to preserve pride, save face or whatever.

    However ... apart from possible efforts in that direction from the factory engineers, why would it be in, say, Factory Yamaha's interest to nobble Crutchlow's bike, even slightly?

    Might any difference between the factory and satellite Yamahas not be down to resources: the factory team is developing the bike from the feedback of Lorenzo and to a lesser extent Rossi, and chooses not to spread its efforts so far as to give new parts to Crutchlow for testing.

    Rather, Crutchlow gets stuff the others have tested and liked. No?

    So, on a factory team, it would not be so much that Crutchlow's bike was better, but that he would have more of a say in developing it.

    After all, "better" at this level is very fine margins and a very individual thing. As we've seen, Lorenzo thinks his present chassis is better but Rossi has tried it and prefers his own shorter set-up.
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  15. K2vodka

    K2vodka Been here awhile

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    Great picture before... Great pain!
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  16. PeterW

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    Well, yes, but raw bike performance doesn't always help.

    Ducati possibly have more engine power, look at how well they are doing ?.

    Suspension is likely very close, frame close, beyond that it's subtle things, like how the COG of bike AND rider works out at various places around the track. Not belittling Crutchlow's skill, but I suspect part of why he's doing well is that either the bike just works for him or he's been able to adapt his riding style to get that little bit more out of it in the corners and under brakes relative to the factory bikes - doesn't make up for being down on power on the straights, elsewhere though ...

    Pete
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  17. azkiwi

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    This. Even Poncheral has stated that Crutchlow's equipment is top shelf and equivalent. Underdog-champions apparently prefer not to accept his word. :evil

    But if there was a preference that Cal believed would make HIM faster, Yamaha are not going to focus development on it - they advance for the fastest guy: Lorenzo.
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  18. Pecha72

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    I think DP showed in 2012, that he can fight hard for race wins, when that is necessary. He came very close to winning the title as well. This year, and especially now with JLo´s injury, it looks even better for him at this point. He may not even have to risk it all to get a win, and he´ll be wise enough to know, that right now he might be better off that way. But if he has to fight, I don´t think he´ll have a problem with that at all.

    For Kevin Schwantz´ sake, I really do hope DP gets it all together this year... :lol3
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  19. Stoffe

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    Cal has signed a 2 year deal with Ducati. :ear
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    Rumour has is that JAYLOW is on a plane back from Barcelona after succesful surgery and will run practise again today and perhaps race tomorrow! :evil